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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    ... I was simply pointed out that the Berkeley Public School system has no problem with pedophilia, and in fact, dedicated a children's poetry garden to one of pedophilias' leading proponents.
    Okay, you have pointed it out. Well done.

    Did you have anything to say about the thread topic, or Reality's insinuation that gay rights organizations are likely to sponsor NAMBLA and related efforts to legalize sexual acts with minors?
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    The age of consent can vary a lot from one country to another. In Spain it was 13 until it was raised to 16 last year. Many countries in Europe set the limit at 14 or 15. What influence it has on society is difficult to figure out. You must also consider that sexual abuses on minors are mostly committed within the family circle, i.e. by members of the family or other people close to it. Many of these abuses are never reported to authorities. So pedophilia is something as old as humanity and if it damaged many children over the centuries and is absolutely not acceptable, meanwhile it did not led societies to crumble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    My question is, what do we consider pedophilia. The definition.

    Like, when I was 11, I was at a summer camp in Russia, where a lady employee in her 20s, took me out to the woods, many times, damn near every day, and... well... taught me the ways of pleasuring a way, shall we say. That was my first ever sexual experience... lol As it turned out, I was later told by others, she been at that camp five years or so by then, and every summer, she would pick one of us boys from the group she supervised, and make him or them her favourite for them summer, if you know what I mean.

    To this day I don't see her as a "pedophile", as I don't consider myself to have been "abused" or "molested" or otherwise victimised in any way. I enjoyed the whole damn thing... And... I was a recent refugee from a fucking warzone. I had no friends at the camp then, where my uncle sent me specifically to recuperate a bit, the summer I arrived to Moscow from Abkhazia. The year before, the Georgians tried to start a bloody insurrection in Abkhazia, which, after their defeat, resulted in violent retaliation against their civilians. I had literally seen people being fucking killed in the streets, just months before I came to that camp. And that woman, Yulia, pretty much helped me through it all. Let me unload all my nasty memories on her. She was my counsellor, therapist, whatever; as well as... lover, yes. She helped me heal, emotionally.

    So... I am, frankly, grateful to her. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Not to mention she made many of us boys damn excited about going to that camp summer after summer, always hoping she'd pick one us again lmao I actually did get chosen once more, couple years after...

    Anyway... Yes, this is what complicates my views on this thing, this experience of mine...
    You took her actions as affection,when in fact you were nothing but one of many for her pleasure.

    Both young girls and boys starving for affection from anyone do that.

    I bet Madeline would tell you the same. You will give your own love and affection. They will not have to seek it from strangers who abuse young children.

    I am sure many young,abanded kids feel the same way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    In the Prop 8 campaign in California, circa 2008, California voters eliminated the rights of same sex couples to marry after a vicious, untruthful, enormously well-funded campaign that sought to link the risk of child sex abuse in the public's mind with the acceptance of GLBT people.

    This campaign was funded predominantly by the Mormon and Catholic churches in the US, two of the most anti-sexual groups in our history. It was pernicious in part because at least the Catholic church had been a huge source of actual child sex abuse, and had had the most sophisticated, albeit painful, education in its cause known to modern man.

    This lie gets recycled often. A propaganda campaign costing SIXTY MILLION DOLLARS has had some lingering effect.

    What the liars gloss over is, parents and other adults looking to keep kids safe are misled and lured into actually putting children at risk, when they fall for this rancid bullshit.

    It's a lie told not to protect kids, as it actually endangers them. It's told to demonize law-abiding, perfectly normal GLBT people, because without sexual repression, the anti-sex religions have no real hope of maintaining political power in the U.S. Power which, IMO, they have no business coveting to begin with.

    Just to clarify: 99% of child sex abuse is committed by an adult known to the child and its family. Pedophiles and pedarasts are adults who masquerade as trustworthy, heterosexual adults 99% of the time.

    You want to protect your child? Trust nobody over your kid's own complaints. Teach your child bodily integrity and autonomy, meaning, don't force them to submit to anyone's physical touching if they resist. Etc.

    Your kid will no more be assaulted by your gay cousin and his husband than he will be killed by falling space debris. It's your sister's new boyfriend, the pretty young teacher at school, or his boy scout leader who will commit child sex abuse.

    Actual child sex abusers who are the same gender as their victims are obviously not unknown, but they are not gay. Gay adults desire other ADULTS. Only pedophiles desire children, and which child they choose to attack has as much to do with opportunity as it does that child's gender.

    Hair color is as much a preference among pedophiles as gender.

    Don't let some hideous lie cause you to leave your kid unprotected while you go on some snipe hunt for pedophiles in the one place they are LEAST likely to be found: openly GLBT people in your community.
    If you say so.

    Now That Everyone Cares About Pederasty ? - Crisis Magazine

    How common is it? A 1992 study of homosexual and bi-sexual men showed that 37 percent had “been encouraged or forced to have sexual contact before age 19 with an older or more powerful partner.” The Sigma Project carried out in Great Britain found “50 percent of homosexuals had their first same-sex experience with an adult by the age of 14,” which is two years below the age of consent in that country.

    There are many more studies that show the same thing but there are also men who come from that world who speak out. Robert Oscar Lopez came to fame a few years ago when he announced he was raised by lesbians, was bi-sexual himself, and still opposed gay “marriage.” He agreed with Milo. Writing at the Stream he said, “…what [Milo] said is quite common in gay subculture, almost banal…”

    He goes on, “It is naive to think that you can encourage a 7th grader to identify as gay and then be shocked when he has sex with a man. Given the shortage of gay-identified boys within his age range, he will probably be initiated by an older man and then fall in with increasingly older men until he’s now 15 and sleeping with 45-year-olds.”

    He points to the traumatic case of college student Tyler Clementi who fell in sexually “with very shady older men” and who eventually jumped off the George Washington Bridge in New York. His death was not blamed on the obviously abusive relationship he had with his older initiators into Gayworld but on the “homophobia” of his roommate who was probably forced to see Tyler with these older men in their dorm room.

    Lopez talks about Dustin Lance Black, the director of a movie celebrating the life of San Francisco politician and noted pederast Harvey Milk, who seduced the 19-year-old star of that movie. Homosexual provocateur Michelangelo Signorile boasted of Black’s “intergenerational intimacy” in the Huffington Post and said if you objected you were no more than a bigot.

    Ex-gay porn actor Joseph Sciambra writes extensively on this subject and points to the long-standing fascination gay boys have for older men and vice versa. Sciambra, now a faithful Catholic, said when as a boy he finally had the courage to walk into a gay bar what he found were an enormous number of older men eager to show him the ropes, which they did, and pass him around. Already wounded by his own relationship with his father, Sciambra eagerly sought refuge there. He says the same story can be told of practically all gay men, though they won’t admit it to you or me....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality View Post
    It's a documented fact that little boys are molested by males at disproportionately high rates compared to little girls.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756

    And as documented, the LGBT political movements have had a history of tolerating pro-pedophile organizations such as NAMBLA - likewise Marxist thinkers of the Frankfurt school were tolerant of ideas of 'pedophile rights', so trying to whitewash the history of radical left and sympathy toward pedophilia will not work.

    LGBT activism doesn't represent all "gay people" anyway, and the origin of LGBT activism has heavy roots in cultural Marxism and radical sexual politics.
    If you knew anything about the study of Chronophilia/Paraphilia, you would know the classification of "homosexual" pedophia has nothing to do with the "sexual preference" of the paraphile, it has to do with the gender of the paraphile's sexual attraction.

    There are classifications of chronophiles that deal with the age of the person and the gender.

    Pedophile is a person that is attracted to children older than infant, but younger than pubescent. A pedophile can be attracted to only female, only male, or both. The classification of homosexual comes form an adult male having an attraction to a male child....EVEN THOUGH that pedophile may be in an adult sexual relationship with an adult female and have never has any sexual contact with another adult male or any male child.

    His classification of homosexual pedophile comes from the gender of his fixation...not his sexual orientation.

    Chronophilia is a complicated subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fenrir View Post
    If you say so.

    Now That Everyone Cares About Pederasty ? - Crisis Magazine

    How common is it? A 1992 study of homosexual and bi-sexual men showed that 37 percent had “been encouraged or forced to have sexual contact before age 19 with an older or more powerful partner.” The Sigma Project carried out in Great Britain found “50 percent of homosexuals had their first same-sex experience with an adult by the age of 14,” which is two years below the age of consent in that country.

    There are many more studies that show the same thing but there are also men who come from that world who speak out. Robert Oscar Lopez came to fame a few years ago when he announced he was raised by lesbians, was bi-sexual himself, and still opposed gay “marriage.” He agreed with Milo. Writing at the Stream he said, “…what [Milo] said is quite common in gay subculture, almost banal…”

    He goes on, “It is naive to think that you can encourage a 7th grader to identify as gay and then be shocked when he has sex with a man. Given the shortage of gay-identified boys within his age range, he will probably be initiated by an older man and then fall in with increasingly older men until he’s now 15 and sleeping with 45-year-olds.”

    He points to the traumatic case of college student Tyler Clementi who fell in sexually “with very shady older men” and who eventually jumped off the George Washington Bridge in New York. His death was not blamed on the obviously abusive relationship he had with his older initiators into Gayworld but on the “homophobia” of his roommate who was probably forced to see Tyler with these older men in their dorm room.

    Lopez talks about Dustin Lance Black, the director of a movie celebrating the life of San Francisco politician and noted pederast Harvey Milk, who seduced the 19-year-old star of that movie. Homosexual provocateur Michelangelo Signorile boasted of Black’s “intergenerational intimacy” in the Huffington Post and said if you objected you were no more than a bigot.

    Ex-gay porn actor Joseph Sciambra writes extensively on this subject and points to the long-standing fascination gay boys have for older men and vice versa. Sciambra, now a faithful Catholic, said when as a boy he finally had the courage to walk into a gay bar what he found were an enormous number of older men eager to show him the ropes, which they did, and pass him around. Already wounded by his own relationship with his father, Sciambra eagerly sought refuge there. He says the same story can be told of practically all gay men, though they won’t admit it to you or me....
    If you are suggesting that pedarasty is a CAUSE of homosexuality in young teens, no. It is obviously a source of pain if a straight teen is preyed on by a same sex pedarast, just as it is if a GLBT teen is preyed on by an opposite sex adult.

    But again, sexual behavior is not sexual orientation or desire. In such teens, the suffering is real and might be expressed in sexual behavior as an adult that is self-destructive, but you cannot "create" homosexuality in a straight teen.

    Anymore than the opposite is true.

    ALL teens are at risk from pedarasts, of any sort, but most who aggress this way are choosing opposite sex victims. It's an observable fact -- just look at the teachers arrested for abusing students.

    As with pedophilia, what data we have suggests most victims of pedarasty are female, and most offenders are male.

    But no child is immune, and no adult is guaranteed safe by reason of her job or apparent sexual orientation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    If you are suggesting that pedarasty is a CAUSE of homosexuality in young teens, no. It is obviously a source of pain if a straight teen is preyed on by a same sex pedarast, just as it is if a GLBT teen is preyed on by an opposite sex adult.

    But again, sexual behavior is not sexual orientation or desire. In such teens, the suffering is real and might be expressed in sexual behavior as an adult that is self-destructive, but you cannot "create" homosexuality in a straight teen.

    Anymore than the opposite is true.

    ALL teens are at risk from pedarasts, of any sort, but most who aggress this way are choosing opposite sex victims. It's an observable fact -- just look at the teachers arrested for abusing students.

    As with pedophilia, what data we have suggests most victims of pedarasty are female, and most offenders are male.

    But no child is immune, and no adult is guaranteed safe by reason of her job or apparent sexual orientation.
    Nope. I'm suggesting pedastry is quite common in the homosexual community. Both heterosexuals and homosexuals prey on children and teens, but at different rates, and neither is good for either society or the underaged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality View Post
    It's a documented fact that little boys are molested by males at disproportionately high rates compared to little girls.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756

    And as documented, the LGBT political movements have had a history of tolerating pro-pedophile organizations such as NAMBLA - likewise Marxist thinkers of the Frankfurt school were tolerant of ideas of 'pedophile rights', so trying to whitewash the history of radical left and sympathy toward pedophilia will not work.

    LGBT activism doesn't represent all "gay people" anyway, and the origin of LGBT activism has heavy roots in cultural Marxism and radical sexual politics.
    NAMBLA IS A BULLSHIT SMOKE SCREEN. While your very own kids might have been molested by a TRUSTED MAN in their lives, Democrats don't know what the hell you are talking about when you say NAMBLA, REPUBLICANS throw up the false flag of NAMBLA. It is diversion tactic. And while you and others divert attention, another generation of little girls and boys are having fingers, hands, tongues and penises on them where NONE SHOULD EVER BE!! (And I'm not even including the CHILD PORN at your fingertips that 'NAMBLA boogymen' likely have clicked on!!)

    Ask the FBI what the profile of a typical child molester is. SANDUSKY ring any bells? He "fit the child molester pattern to a T", the only difference according to the FBI agent cited below is that he managed to get away with it for 40 years. (Thanks JOE PATERNO and your band of 'circle the wagons' ALUM).

    Think Sandusky is a member of NAMBLA?

    Experts: Pedophilia cases follow predictable patterns | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

    https://mental-health-matters.com/pr...f-a-pedophile/


    • Are primarily (but not always) male, masculine, better-educated, more religious than average, in their thirties, and choose jobs allowing them greater access to children.
    • Are usually family men, have no criminal record, and deny that they abuse children, even after caught, convicted, incarcerated, and court-ordered into a sex offender program. The marriage is often troubled by sexual dysfunction, and serves as a smokescreen for the pedophile’s true preferences and practices.
    • Often dates or marries women with children that are the age of his preferred victims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fenrir View Post
    Nope. I'm suggesting pedastry is quite common in the homosexual community. Both heterosexuals and homosexuals prey on children and teens, but at different rates, and neither is good for either society or the underaged.
    "Common in the homosexual community", meaning what? That most GLBT adults actively seek sex with 8th graders?

    THAT is a preposterous suggestion.

    If you are suggesting that MOST teens are victimized by at least an ATTEMPT at pedarasty, of course. The sad fact is, the young adult in the US (and likely anywhere on earth) who has never been the target of at least an ATTEMPT at child sex abuse is rare. There is almost no other type of violent crime that parents should be more vigilant about, as to protecting children.

    https://centers.preventchildabuse.co...t/sexual-abuse

    MOST victims of child sex abuse are female, and most offenders are male -- by a factor of about 400%. This obviously does not mean that parents should be less vigilant about their sons, etc.

    It means that suggesting GLBT adults, who are no more than 10% of the population, are committing more than 50% of child sex abuse crimes is PATENTLY RIDICULOUS, and repeating this bad information is HARMFUL to the reputation of our law-abiding GLBT neighbors, as well as placing the community's children at heightened risk.

    Parents need to be educated to view ALL other adults as risky, per se, and to be vigilant about the access they have to their children.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    In 1994 the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) adopted a document called "Position Statement Regarding NAMBLA", which said GLAAD "deplores the North American Man Boy Love Association's (NAMBLA) goals, which include advocacy for sex between adult men and boys and the removal of legal protections for children. These goals constitute a form of child abuse and are repugnant to GLAAD." Also in 1994 the Board of Directors of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force (NGLTF) adopted a resolution on NAMBLA that said, "NGLTF condemns all abuse of minors, both sexual and any other kind, perpetrated by adults. Accordingly, NGLTF condemns the organizational goals of NAMBLA and any other such organization."

    Wikipedia

    Doesn't sound like GLAAD or the NGLTF are tolerant of NAMBLA to me.
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