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    Sexual violence in India

    Ten reasons why India has a sexual violence problem - thestar.com

    The ten reasons provided in the article are:
    1. Few female police officers
    2. Not enough police officers in general
    3. Blaming provocative clothing
    4. Acceptance of domestic violence
    5. A lack of public safety
    6. Stigmatizing the victim
    7. Encouraging rape victims to compromise
    8. Sluggish court system
    9. Few convictions
    10. Low status of women
    It's notable that there are many reasons provided in this article that are also major issues existing outside of India but to a lesser extent. There are obvious cultural and religious differences from place to place, and a police officer in North America would never suggest that marrying your rapist is the right "compromise".

    What do you think is the solution to sexual violence, not just in India but elsewhere? Do you think this list can also in part apply to places like the United States? (Or Canada?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphima View Post
    Ten reasons why India has a sexual violence problem - thestar.com

    The ten reasons provided in the article are:


    It's notable that there are many reasons provided in this article that are also major issues existing outside of India but to a lesser extent. There are obvious cultural and religious differences from place to place, and a police officer in North America would never suggest that marrying your rapist is the right "compromise".

    What do you think is the solution to sexual violence, not just in India but elsewhere? Do you think this list can also in part apply to places like the United States? (Or Canada?)


    India had Indira Ghandi ..... and they encourage rape victims to marry their attackers.

    I have a hard time squaring that. Granted, I don't hear news about India often. Usually it's about how jobs, usually telephone work, has been outsourced there. I've been reading some this week, and two things stand out. First, I don't think they can solve the problem when the rural areas are still developing, and working on roads, food, energy, etc. Much as I don't like it, basic needs for population has to be sort of satisfied, before issues of equality can be addressed. I think.


    After that, I think the laws have to change, and the culture around will follow. Eventually.


    I think your list applies, universally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackalope View Post
    India had Indira Ghandi ..... and they encourage rape victims to marry their attackers.

    I have a hard time squaring that. Granted, I don't hear news about India often. Usually it's about how jobs, usually telephone work, has been outsourced there. I've been reading some this week, and two things stand out. First, I don't think they can solve the problem when the rural areas are still developing, and working on roads, food, energy, etc. Much as I don't like it, basic needs for population has to be sort of satisfied, before issues of equality can be addressed. I think.


    After that, I think the laws have to change, and the culture around will follow. Eventually.


    I think your list applies, universally.
    100% correct

    It's hard to care about fairness and equality when you're struggling to survive on a day-to-day basis. Granted there are many, many reasons for sexual predation and violence, and no nation should get a free pass simply because it hasn't caught up to the western world in infrastructure, but it's still a key component in some parts of the world where sexual violence runs rampant.
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    More female police officers are coming to Delhi:

    Women will be recruited for every police station in Delhi, Indian officials say, after an outcry over the December rape and murder of a student.

    Home Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde said India had to crack down on crimes against women with an "iron hand".
    Delhi officials have responded to criticism that they are failing to protect women by announcing a series of measures intended to make the city safer.

    These include more police night patrols, checks on bus drivers and their assistants, and the banning of buses with tinted windows or curtains.

    The government has also set up a committee under a retired Supreme Court judge to recommend changes to the anti-rape law.

    A telephone helpline has been launched for women in distress, connected to police stations across the city.
    BBC News - India gang rape: Delhi to appoint more policewomen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphima View Post
    Ten reasons why India has a sexual violence problem - thestar.com

    The ten reasons provided in the article are:


    It's notable that there are many reasons provided in this article that are also major issues existing outside of India but to a lesser extent. There are obvious cultural and religious differences from place to place, and a police officer in North America would never suggest that marrying your rapist is the right "compromise".

    What do you think is the solution to sexual violence, not just in India but elsewhere? Do you think this list can also in part apply to places like the United States? (Or Canada?)


    Regarding #9 - Few convictions. That was a gross understatement. Check this out:


    Only one conviction out of 635 rape cases in Delhi this year, reveals home ministry data
    PTI Dec 30, 2012, 03.55PM IST

    NEW DELHI: There has been only one conviction out of over 600 cases of rape reported to Delhi Police this year even as crime against women has been on the rise in the national capital.

    As many as 754 accused were arrested in the 635 cases reported to Delhi Police between January and November, the highest in past five years, home ministry data said.

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    The national capital has also reported 624 cases of molestation of women between January and November and the police have arrested 768 accused. However, conviction was done in only one case. The trials were pending against 402 accused and investigations were pending against 356 others suspected to have molested women, it said.

    (snip ... )

    The national capital has reported 111 cases of dowry harassment between January and November this year. Besides, 98 such cases were reported to Delhi Police last year, 78 in 2010, 118 in 2009 and 104 in 2008.

    There were 128 dowry deaths reported in the national capital in the first eleven months this year as against 142 and 143 such deaths in 2011 and 2010 respectively, it said.

    A total of 193 cases of eve teasing were reported to Delhi Police between January and November in which 200 accused were arrested. Of these, 105 were still under investigation and 95 were facing trials, the data said adding that there was no conviction in any of the reported cases.

    more: Only one conviction out of 635 rape cases in Delhi this year, reveals home ministry data - Times Of India

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    Dear dog, I know I'm not going to be one throwing stones at India when the same shit is going on here.

    Steubenville rape case: Video shows a group of high school students laughing about girl's ordeal | Mail Online

    High school sports star caught on camera LAUGHING as football team players 'raped and urinated on girl, 16, during house party'
    Group of teens seen laughing as one describes girl who was raped and urinated on
    Two Steubenville football players charged in August with rape and kidnapping of girl
    Shocking photos and video posted on social networks show the brutality of the assault

    It's okay in this country so long as you are a High School football star.

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    A man who rapes is not a man but a beast. Many beasts roam all countries.

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    After decades of violence, Indian women hoping for change in wake of brutal New Delhi gang rape
    Muneeza Naqvi, Associated Press | Jan 7, 2013 5:49 PM ET


    For decades, women have had little choice but to walk away when groped in a crowded bus or train, or to simply cringe as someone tosses an obscene comment their way. Even if they haven’t experienced explicit sexual abuse themselves, they live with the fear that it could happen to them or a loved one.

    The gang rape and beating of a 23-year-old university student on a moving bus in India’s capital has taken sexual violence – a subject long hidden in the shadows of Indian society – and thrust it into the light.

    Following the Dec. 16 attack in New Delhi, which resulted in the woman’s death, hundreds of thousands of Indians – both men and women – poured onto the streets of cities across the country, holding candlelight vigils and rallies demanding that authorities take tougher action to create a safe environment for women.

    “At least now people are talking,” says Rashmi Gogia, a 35-year-old receptionist in a New Delhi law office.

    Associated Press journalists interviewed women across India, from the northern cities of Lucknow and Allahabad, to Bangalore in the south, and from the eastern cities of Patna and Gauhati to Ahmadabad in the west.

    The outrage sparked by the heinous attack has given women at least a measure of hope that the country of 1.2 billion people will see meaningful improvement in how women are treated, though most realize any change is likely to come slowly.

    “These protests have at least given women the confidence to talk about sexual violence,” says Singh, the kindergarten teacher in Bangalore. “For too long, women have been made to feel guilty for these things.”

    more: New Delhi rape brings hope that India will be changed | World | News | National Post

    Hundreds of thousands of people across India have come out to protest in the wake of the Dec 16 gang rape. I didn't realize it was that many.


    Sad factoid from the above article. Sex selection abortion, and female infanticide, has skewed the population greatly in India:


    The mistreatment starts early – with sex-selective abortions and even female infanticides that have wildly skewed India’s gender ratio. India’s 2011 census showed that the country had 914 girls under age six for every 1,000 boys.

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    I think that women underestimate the power of the male sex drive. They don't really understand it. They can't feel it. How it can drive a man to do crazy and illegal things. To all creatures pro-creation is paramount.

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