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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaragunudgeyon View Post
    Pity the poor bastard who had to tell Der Fuhrer that the "subhuman" Russians had a better tank....... being produced in huge numbers.

    In retrospect maybe they should have concentrated on improving the already decent panzers and not fooled around with the [although pretty cool] Tiger and Panther.



    Leopard 2 pulling 21 tonnes.

    The Panther was the best medium tank of that war.

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    Yea, maybe, if it could make it to the battlefield without breaking down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedminator View Post
    Mmmm tanks


    Russia's latest MainBattleTank, the T-90MS..



    T-90MS main battle tank data sheet specifications information pictures **Army Recognition


    Promotional video from the factory makes it sound pretty good... altho how it'll actually perform on the battlefield is yet to be seen.
    Inside a tank is the last place I'd want to be if I was back in the military in battle if the enemy had air power. Death traps no matter how superior they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I'm sick to death with all the military adventurism exhibited by presidents of both parties since the fall of the Soviet Union. I'm of the belief we should trade with folks and not bomb them.

    In regards to our military. I dunno. I believe our military industrial complex exists to use taxpayer monies to provide jobs and enrich corporations more than anything else. Hell, some programs continue for decades and never produce anything of value while siphoning trillions of dollars away from the taxpayers. God knows our military isn't being used to protect the nation from invasion.

    Having said that while our military is great for taking out stone aged goat herders but I have to wonder just how well our forces would do against a modern military. In all fairness the fact we haven't won an actual war since ww2 makes me wonder if we (as a society) are even capable of waging war anymore.
    I was with you until you said we haven't won a war. That is patently false. If a kid A is beating the pulp out kid B and kid A is pulled off by a teacher how can you say kid A lost the fight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaragunudgeyon View Post
    Yea, maybe, if it could make it to the battlefield without breaking down.
    When they did there was nothing that could touch them. That high velocity 75 mm gun was a killer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    I was with you until you said we haven't won a war. That is patently false. If a kid A is beating the pulp out kid B and kid A is pulled off by a teacher how can you say kid A lost the fight?
    So, which war have we "won" since ww2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    So, which war have we "won" since ww2.
    My point was we didn't lose any like you said we did.
    Last edited by EnigmaO01; 8th October 2014 at 02:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    I'm sick to death with all the military adventurism exhibited by presidents of both parties since the fall of the Soviet Union. I'm of the belief we should trade with folks and not bomb them.

    In regards to our military. I dunno. I believe our military industrial complex exists to use taxpayer monies to provide jobs and enrich corporations more than anything else. Hell, some programs continue for decades and never produce anything of value while siphoning trillions of dollars away from the taxpayers. God knows our military isn't being used to protect the nation from invasion.

    Having said that while our military is great for taking out stone aged goat herders but I have to wonder just how well our forces would do against a modern military. In all fairness the fact we haven't won an actual war since ww2 makes me wonder if we (as a society) are even capable of waging war anymore.
    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    My point We didn't lose any like you said we did.
    I didn't say we "lost" any. I said we didn't "win" any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    When they did there was nothing that could touch them. That high velocity 75 mm gun was a killer.
    It just didn't matter by that time. The Panther could knock out 20 Shermans, or Russian T-34's, and they would just be ANOTHER 20 behind them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    So, which war have we "won" since ww2.
    We have no actually bee4n in a war since WWII.
    Name the last country we declared war on.

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