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    An M-14 was.is not much more than an M-1 with a 20 round external magazine instead of an 8 round internal clip.
    You could leave the M-14 magazine in position and load it with stripper clips just like the M-1. But, as you mention, "M-1 thumb."

    I LOVED the M-14.
    I fired expert with the M14 at glorious Fort Polk LA. We were firing at pop up silhouettes at 50 to 350 meters, at the end of the day after all 250 of us had qualified, I was on target clean up duty, the closer range targets were shot to pieces, the 350 meter ones had a couple of holes in them

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    The M1 was the long action 30-06 where the M14 was short action .308.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    The M1 was the long action 30-06 where the M14 was short action .308.
    The M14 was designed to fire a standard NATO 7.62 mm round. At the time, we wanted to be compatible with NATO as we were preparing for another war in Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    An M-14 was.is not much more than an M-1 with a 20 round external magazine instead of an 8 round internal clip.
    You could leave the M-14 magazine in position and load it with stripper clips just like the M-1. But, as you mention, "M-1 thumb."

    I LOVED the M-14.
    The M14 had a slightly different gas system. But, for those who own either an M1 Garand or an M1A (or variation thereof), they would still be a formidable foe regardless of what other firearm they faced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    I fired expert with the M14 at glorious Fort Polk LA. We were firing at pop up silhouettes at 50 to 350 meters, at the end of the day after all 250 of us had qualified, I was on target clean up duty, the closer range targets were shot to pieces, the 350 meter ones had a couple of holes in them
    Seriously? You guys only had to fire out to 350 meters?
    I went through MCRD San Diego in 1968 and we had to fire at targets 500 yards away with the M-14 on qualification day. We used the traditional bullseye configuration and not silhouettes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    The M1 was the long action 30-06 where the M14 was short action .308.
    Yes, that's why i said "not much more" and NOT "exactly like" an M-1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humorme View Post
    The M14 had a slightly different gas system. But, for those who own either an M1 Garand or an M1A (or variation thereof), they would still be a formidable foe regardless of what other firearm they faced.
    Please see post #16.

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    Best thing of the M14 over the M1 was the captured spring pin holder, no more losing pins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Seriously? You guys only had to fire out to 350 meters?
    I went through MCRD San Diego in 1968 and we had to fire at targets 500 yards away with the M-14 on qualification day. We used the traditional bullseye configuration and not silhouettes.
    Those green silhouettes with trees and brush in the background at 350 meters were barely visible, like I said, our 250 shooters barely scratched them. This was in 1964, I have no idea why the Marines kept using the old WWII style firing ranges for years afterward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    The 7mm-08 would be a good choice. Short action and light recoil like the 5.56, but much better ballistics. It is .308 (7.62mm) brass necked down for a 7mm bullet.
    The 7mm-08 is a fine choice although I like the 308 Win. myself. It was never broke and didn't need fixin' in the first place.

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