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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    That's bullshit and you know it.

    Any US law trumps any treaty if they are in conflict.
    The Constitution says no such thing.

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    The War Powers Act means the president cannot be accountable to any foreign entity unless Congress decides there was a human rights violation.
    Show where the War Powers Resolution (not "Act" - it was a joint resolution passed over President Nixon's veto) says this. It was passed as a limit on presidential power, not on Congressional power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    The Constitution says no such thing.


    Show where the War Powers Resolution (not "Act" - it was a joint resolution passed over President Nixon's veto) says this. It was passed as a limit on presidential power, not on Congressional power.
    Its only a limit AFTER 60 days. The "resolution" also gave the president absolute power within those first two months.

    And nowhere in the Constitution does is say a treaty is the supreme law of the land, that is given to congress and any law they pass so if they pass the "resolution" then the president can do whatever he wants and is not accountable to foreign entities.

    Only congress can try him for violations.

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    And nowhere in the Constitution does is say a treaty is the supreme law of the land...
    Um ... I just quoted the section of the Constitution that says a treaty is the supreme law of the land. See post #7, which has a link to the specific clause cited.

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    ... that is given to congress ...
    No, it is not. "[The President] shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur." U.S. Const. art. II, 2, cl. 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Um ... I just quoted the section of the Constitution that says a treaty is the supreme law of the land. See post #7, which has a link to the specific clause cited.


    No, it is not. "[The President] shall have power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur." U.S. Const. art. II, 2, cl. 2.
    Oh please Ian.

    You know the supremacy clause as well as I do. It says a lot more than just treaties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Oh please Ian.

    You know the supremacy clause as well as I do. It says a lot more than just treaties.
    It does say more than treaties. I even quoted and hyperlinked the clause. I never contested that. But so what? My position is correct, and yours is not.
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