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    Horseshit about Vietnam

    Myth: Kim Phuc, the little nine year old Vietnamese girl running naked from the napalm strike near Trang Bang on 8 June 1972 (shown a million times on American television) was burned by Americans bombing Trang Bang.

    Fact: No American had involvement in this incident near Trang Bang that burned Phan Thi Kim Phuc. The planes doing the bombing near the village were VNAF (Vietnam Air Force) and were being flown by Vietnamese pilots in support of South Vietnamese troops on the ground. The Vietnamese pilot who dropped the napalm in error is currently living in the United States. Even the AP photographer, Nick Ut, who took the picture, was Vietnamese. The incident in the photo took place on the second day of a three day battle between the North Vietnamese Army (NVA) who occupied the village of Trang Bang and the ARVN (Army of the Republic of Vietnam) who were trying to force the NVA out of the village. News media have reported tha an American commander ordered the air strike that burned Kim Phuc.Those are incorrect. There were no Americans involved in any capacity. “We (Americans) had nothing to do with controlling VNAF,” according to Lieutenant General (Ret) James F. Hollingsworth, the Commanding General of TRAC at that time. Also, it has been incorrectly reported that two of Kim Phuc’s brothers were killed in this incident. They were Kim’s cousins not her brothers.
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    Facts and evidence do not matter when someone is pushing their agenda.

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    No one's saying that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    Facts and evidence do not matter when someone is pushing their agenda.
    Which agenda? Facts as claimed may be so.. HOWEVER....the plane and bomb were made in USA, the Pilot was trained by..USA, and likely the idea of airstrikes.. also USA. The PHOTO.... had meaning way beyond the details of THAT actual incident. It's one of 3 photos from that era burned into our memories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    Facts and evidence do not matter when someone is pushing their agenda.
    The agenda that the Vietnam War was a war we should never have fought? Over 50,000 young Americans would agree with that....and you could add thousands more that would feel the same way about Iraq.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    The agenda that the Vietnam War was a war we should never have fought? Over 50,000 young Americans would agree with that....and you could add thousands more that would feel the same way about Iraq.
    I thought it was more like 58,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwood View Post
    Which agenda? Facts as claimed may be so.. HOWEVER....the plane and bomb were made in USA, the Pilot was trained by..USA, and likely the idea of airstrikes.. also USA. The PHOTO.... had meaning way beyond the details of THAT actual incident. It's one of 3 photos from that era burned into our memories.
    My guess:

    The little naked girl, the guy being executed on the street, and the people climbing into the helicopter on the roof?

    Those are the three I remember most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OHjulie View Post
    No one's saying that.
    They were saying it back then.

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    Isn't the point about the photograph about the horrors of napalm rather than who did it to her? We used napalm, pretty sure the North Vietnamese did not but even if they did, we used it, made it and sold it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claudius the God View Post
    Isn't the point about the photograph about the horrors of napalm rather than who did it to her? We used napalm, pretty sure the North Vietnamese did not but even if they did, we used it, made it and sold it.
    And it's outlawed now, I think.

    This happened many times, this little girl just got her picture taken, that's all.

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