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    Quote Originally Posted by Ęthelfrith View Post
    They probably said the same thing to the 'fucking idiots' that attacked Bismarck in wooden planes...
    Excellent point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    The slight difference is that a torpedo actually could damage the battleship and a solid shot cannonball could not. Plus a 200 mile an hour flying target is more difficult to defend against than a 5 mile an hour sailboat.
    200 mile an hour? Must be a parallel universe Swordfish!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    That was a point I brought up earlier.

    If the wooden ship can trigger the explosive I think the shell might be through the ship before it detonates.

    Wood has no stopping power against something like that.

    We may just end up with a bunch of ships with holes in them.
    Which tend to sink. Especially in a rough sea
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Which tend to sink. Especially in a rough sea
    If that is what happens though it will allow them to get close enough to get a few volleys off however.

    Cannonballs hitting their guns aren't going to destroy them but they may dent the shit out of them. You may end up with exploding shells on the battleship the next time they fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    That was a point I brought up earlier.

    If the wooden ship can trigger the explosive I think the shell might be through the ship before it detonates.

    Wood has no stopping power against something like that.

    We may just end up with a bunch of ships with holes in them.
    WWII Battleships carried mostly bombardment shells for shore bombardment, and very few armor piercing shells for ship to ship combat. Bombardment shells had proximity fuses and they would have worked perfectly against wooden ships.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    WWII Battleships carried mostly bombardment shells for shore bombardment, and very few armor piercing shells for ship to ship combat. Bombardment shells had proximity fuses and they would have worked perfectly against wooden ships.
    Ahhh, didn't know that.

    I'm hardly an expert on naval armament.

    So what does that mean exactly?

    They set the range the shell will explode at?

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    Plus battleship guns could range out 25 miles or so....cannons maybe half a mile....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Ahhh, didn't know that.

    I'm hardly an expert on naval armament.

    So what does that mean exactly?

    They set the range the shell will explode at?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximity_fuze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ęthelfrith View Post
    200 mile an hour? Must be a parallel universe Swordfish!
    I had forgotten how obsolete the Stringbag was, our obsolete TBD at least could hit 200...

    Douglas TBD Devastator
    Torpedo bomber
    The Douglas TBD Devastator was an American torpedo bomber of the United States Navy, ordered in 1934, it first flew in 1935 and entered service in 1937. Wikipedia

    Top speed: 206*mph
    They paid the price at Midway...

    However, these participating TBD Devastators would encounter heavy losses due to their slow speed, poor maneuverability, lack of planned air cover and misplaced assaults - not a single direct hit was recorded from all of the torpedoes launched in the attacks. Forty-one Devastators were sent into action in the battle with only six returning home
    Douglas TBD Devastator Torpedo Bomber Aircraft

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    I had forgotten how obsolete the Stringbag was, our obsolete TBD at least could hit 200...



    They paid the price at Midway...



    Douglas TBD Devastator Torpedo Bomber Aircraft
    The Swordfish would have been going a lot slower and would be going in a straight line. Perfectly straightforward to destroy. Then again... "By war’s end the Swordfish collectively accounted for a million tons of enemy shipping sunk"

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