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    2017 Military Strength Ranking

    Here is a breakdown of all the current military's in the world and how they rate against each other.

    Simply go to the site and click on the country to see a list of their assets.

    China is rather amazing with over 170 million people that could potentially fight for them.

    They dominate in other areas also.

    Here is the top 10.


    1

    **United States
    **PwrIndx: 0.0871, GFP Affiliations: North America; NATO; Apacific
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    **Russia
    **PwrIndx: 0.0941, GFP Affiliations: Apacific; EasternEuro; Asia
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    **China
    **PwrIndx: 0.0955, GFP Affiliations: Apacific; Asia
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    **India
    **PwrIndx: 0.1625, GFP Affiliations: Apacific; Asia
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    **France
    **PwrIndx: 0.1955, GFP Affiliations: Europe; NATO; European Union
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    **United Kingdom
    **PwrIndx: 0.2147, GFP Affiliations: Europe; NATO; European Union
    7

    **Japan
    **PwrIndx: 0.2176, GFP Affiliations: Apacific; Asia
    8

    **Turkey
    **PwrIndx: 0.2554, GFP Affiliations: Middle East; NATO; Balkan; Asia
    9

    **Germany
    **PwrIndx: 0.2573, GFP Affiliations: Europe; NATO; European Union
    10

    **Italy
    **PwrIndx: 0.2708, GFP Affiliations: Europe; NATO; European Union


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    My problem with that site has always been that they calculate their numbers too much based on sheer quantity, of troops and hardware; and do not account enough for quality. For example, they put one country, say Turkey, ahead of another country, like Germany, because it simply has MORE troops and tanks and helicopters and whatever. Even though German troops are better armed and trained and more professional; and German tanks and helicopters are more modern and advanced and better in general.

    Their numbers are simply flawed this way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    My problem with that site has always been that they calculate their numbers too much based on sheer quantity, of troops and hardware; and do not account enough for quantity. For example, they put one country, say Turkey, ahead of another country, like Germany, because it simply has MORE troops and tanks and helicopters and whatever. Even though German troops are better armed and trained and more professional; and German tanks and helicopters are more modern and advanced and better in general.

    Their numbers are simply flawed this way.
    You mean "quality"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    You mean "quality"?
    Yes, obviously. Fucking typos...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Yes, obviously. Fucking typos...
    I agree with you.

    Too much emphasis of sheer numbers of troops, and not enough on what those troops can do.

    Same with weapons, look at the tank battles in Desert Storm, the final score was a bit one sided.
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    I'm curious. And maybe some of you vets have opinions (or hard facts).

    France and Germany and Italy on that list are solidly commited to the EU. I'll exclude UK and Turkey though there's always hope. But let's just go with France, Germany and Italy and their place on that list.

    In theory, Europe would then have an extremely large and powerful army at its disposal. Those three plus all the other members. But in practice - it's a dozen different countries, only France having overseas assets.

    Would Europe be able to wage war, together, abroad? Do they have that ability? With all they would require?

    It seemed like in Libya, even with The UKs subs, they couldn't do it without The US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    I'm curious. And maybe some of you vets have opinions (or hard facts).

    France and Germany and Italy on that list are solidly commited to the EU. I'll exclude UK and Turkey though there's always hope. But let's just go with France, Germany and Italy and their place on that list.

    In theory, Europe would then have an extremely large and powerful army at its disposal. Those three plus all the other members. But in practice - it's a dozen different countries, only France having overseas assets.

    Would Europe be able to wage war, together, abroad? Do they have that ability? With all they would require?

    It seemed like in Libya, even with The UKs subs, they couldn't do it without The US.
    Their ability to project power is severely limited.

    The same with everyone except for Russia.

    China and India are pushing this area of the military but they are still quite a ways off.

    They could do it but it would take time to get the assets moved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    I'm curious. And maybe some of you vets have opinions (or hard facts).

    France and Germany and Italy on that list are solidly commited to the EU. I'll exclude UK and Turkey though there's always hope. But let's just go with France, Germany and Italy and their place on that list.

    In theory, Europe would then have an extremely large and powerful army at its disposal. Those three plus all the other members. But in practice - it's a dozen different countries, only France having overseas assets.

    Would Europe be able to wage war, together, abroad? Do they have that ability? With all they would require?

    It seemed like in Libya, even with The UKs subs, they couldn't do it without The US.
    They are designed to be home defense forces, not world conquerors, looking to steal natural resources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    I'm curious. And maybe some of you vets have opinions (or hard facts).

    France and Germany and Italy on that list are solidly commited to the EU. I'll exclude UK and Turkey though there's always hope. But let's just go with France, Germany and Italy and their place on that list.

    In theory, Europe would then have an extremely large and powerful army at its disposal. Those three plus all the other members. But in practice - it's a dozen different countries, only France having overseas assets.

    Would Europe be able to wage war, together, abroad? Do they have that ability? With all they would require?

    It seemed like in Libya, even with The UKs subs, they couldn't do it without The US.
    Well, France has an aircraft carrier, Italy actually has two, I think Britain just built one (or are we not counting them?)

    Europe has many other warships. Sea power is what's needed for successful operations these days. Europe has this. So...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Well, France has an aircraft carrier, Italy actually has two, I think Britain just built one (or are we not counting them?)

    Europe has many other warships. Sea power is what's needed for successful operations these days. Europe has this. So...
    Yeah but their transport vehicles are way behind.

    Basically they would need to convert a huge portion of their commercial shipping to transport vessels for the military and that would take awhile. None of them have the capability to airlift enough forces to constitute an army.
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