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    Donbass rebels to build Navy?

    Russia has supplied a lot of good hardware to the Donbass separatists of the DNR and LNR


    For example, they have as many as 700 tanks at their disposal, more than most European countries; including something previously unheard of in either Russia or Ukraine: an all-woman T-72 crew



    They have sophisticated anti-aircraft weapons

    lots of artillery, towed and self-propelled

    as well as Grads

    and other land-to-land missiles.

    They have no air force (nor a need for one, since their anti-aircraft arsenal has took out enough Ukrainian planes and choppers to discourage them from flying over Donbass at all; so, nobody to fight up here lol).

    They have, however, formed a makeshift "navy", called the "Azov Flotilla", which, to date, has consisted of several (7 is the number I heard most often) fast motorboats supplied by local poachers and smugglers sympathetic to the separatist cause, and outfitted with weapons


    Since late 2015, these guys have occasionally launched Somali pirate-style attacks on Ukrainian Coast Guard cutters off the Donbass coast, in the nearby Azov Sea, and destroyed several enemy crafts


    Well, since May, I have read talk that the Russians plan to strengthen the rebel Flotilla, by giving them armed cutters from the Russian Coast Guard, one "Sobol" ("Sable")-class

    and four "Mangust" ("Mongoose")-class

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    The Ukrainians are very worried about it; and it is part of the greater potential Naval threat of Russia to Ukraine: Strategic Overview of the Russian Maritime Threat to Ukraine: Mariupol and Odesa at Stake

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    When Russia eventually invades and annexes all the pieces of the former USSR, how are they going to pay for it? Wasn't the cost of all of that the reason to split up in the first place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    When Russia eventually invades and annexes all the pieces of the former USSR, how are they going to pay for it? Wasn't the cost of all of that the reason to split up in the first place?
    I'm sure Putin has a plan, its a different world now anyways.

    I hope they hurry up and do it, one enemy to fight is better than all the mess that's over there right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    When Russia eventually invades and annexes all the pieces of the former USSR, how are they going to pay for it? Wasn't the cost of all of that the reason to split up in the first place?
    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    I'm sure Putin has a plan, its a different world now anyways.

    I hope they hurry up and do it, one enemy to fight is better than all the mess that's over there right now.
    I still don't believe Putin wants to try to force the entire ex-USSR back under Moscow control. As Chief says, too expensive.

    His goal, IMHO, is to just keep them all intimidated and frightened enough to kowtow before him and remain in his "sphere of influence", without having to invade or annex them.

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