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    A few interesting facts.

    They did have missiles installed in Cuba but there was no central soviet control. Instead, each missile was under the control of a Cuban general, or their equivalent and they had full autonomy to launch in case of an invasion, they didn't need permission.

    During a security meeting JFK asked his people what his best option was and they said an invasion of Cuba was the best move. During a recess Robert Kennedy took him outside in the hall and basically told him he was crazy, he had to find an alternative way.

    When they came back from break Kennedy informed them that they needed a different plan so they came up with the blockade.

    While that was going on Khrushchev had made number of demands and he kept adding to them. He wanted the missiles out of Turkey, he wanted the US to stay out of Cuba and too not interfere with that nation again, and something else I can't remember at the moment.

    Kennedy was at a loss and didn't know what to do so he called Eisenhower.

    Eisenhower said to remove the missiles but ignore all the other demands so that's what Kennedy did, secretly.

    It should also be noted that the Bay of Pigs was Eisenhower's project, not Kennedy's, by the time he came into office it was too late to stop it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    A few interesting facts.

    They did have missiles installed in Cuba but there was no central soviet control. Instead, each missile was under the control of a Cuban general, or their equivalent and they had full autonomy to launch in case of an invasion, they didn't need permission.

    During a security meeting JFK asked his people what his best option was and they said an invasion of Cuba was the best move. During a recess Robert Kennedy took him outside in the hall and basically told him he was crazy, he had to find an alternative way.

    When they came back from break Kennedy informed them that they needed a different plan so they came up with the blockade.

    While that was going on Khrushchev had made number of demands and he kept adding to them. He wanted the missiles out of Turkey, he wanted the US to stay out of Cuba and too not interfere with that nation again, and something else I can't remember at the moment.

    Kennedy was at a loss and didn't know what to do so he called Eisenhower.

    Eisenhower said to remove the missiles but ignore all the other demands so that's what Kennedy did, secretly.

    It should also be noted that the Bay of Pigs was Eisenhower's project, not Kennedy's, by the time he came into office it was too late to stop it.
    Agree in part, disagree in part.

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    I don't think Khrushchev was bringht enough to put together any complex scheme to either dominate the world, or save it. Guy looked like big bold hog, and he was about as smart as a pig too... I recall my own grandfather's diaries I read, where he writes about life as a military officer under Khrushchev. Calls the guy "the biggest, most hopeless idiot I have ever encountered" The military hated Khrushchev. Lots of them felt that his moronic ignorance would eventually destroy them all, if left unchecked...

    Yet, for all his alleged stupidity... He did, in exchange for pulling out of Cuba, apparently get the US to remove their missiles from Turkey. He did accomplish that...

    Even a dumbass can do something right, once in a while hehe

    Probably though, that was the work of smarter underlings, which he took credit for, like any boss
    Khruschev was gorgeous when he was young.


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    He looks like Gollum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    He looks like Gollum.
    No, he doesn't.

    Gollum looks extremely tall and thin, like the vampire in this movie:



    Nosferatu (1922) scariest vampire, dracula film of all time.

    The director based his depiction of Dracula on the Jewish folk legend of Gollum.


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    This Gollum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    This Gollum.

    J.R.R. Tolkein ripped off the name, but nothing else.

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