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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Yet they think it is broken, and they will keep breaking it until people notice.

    I get health care through the VA, and it has always been outstanding.
    So they did not let you die like happened to many others? VA is substandard healthcare

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    So they did not let you die like happened to many others? VA is substandard healthcare
    I'm not gonna bite on that bait. Huge systems of any kind will have problems. But in the last 20 years or so, Healthcare at V.A has been on the rise quality wise. Most Vets now feel their treatment is outstanding as do I. But I fear that in an effort to make up for this latest windfall giveaway to the wealthy it will result in cutbacks across the board for V.A. Soc Sec and Medicare/Medicaid etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet69 View Post
    I'm not gonna bite on that bait. Huge systems of any kind will have problems. But in the last 20 years or so, Healthcare at V.A has been on the rise quality wise. Most Vets now feel their treatment is outstanding as do I. But I fear that in an effort to make up for this latest windfall giveaway to the wealthy it will result in cutbacks across the board for V.A. Soc Sec and Medicare/Medicaid etc.
    You also are spewing democrat talking points without showing any link or proof

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    Privatizing V.A. will result in the same shit that healthcare became after Reagan okayed HMO's and left the foxes in charge of the henhouses. Public health and profit motives should never be the same issue. They are diametrically opposite things. That's why we need single payer under Democrat rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet69 View Post
    Privatizing V.A. will result in the same shit that healthcare became after Reagan okayed HMO's and left the foxes in charge of the henhouses. Public health and profit motives should never be the same issue. They are diametrically opposite things. That's why we need single payer under Democrat rule.
    It will be better than dying waiting to see a doctor as happened under Obama

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You also are spewing democrat talking points without showing any link or proof
    No, I'm telling the truth. Something you would never recognize because you never hear it coming from Trump and company.

    Link? Ask ten Vets and you'll find nine of them will speak highly of the care they receive in the past 20 years. And, on cuts to the social safety net programs, just watch what happens next year when your heroes go after them to pay for the giveaway to their rich donors.

    It's all easy to see when you take the blinders off and stop buying the snake oil that "The Donald" is selling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet69 View Post
    No, I'm telling the truth. Something you would never recognize because you never hear it coming from Trump and company.

    Link? Ask ten Vets and you'll find nine of them will speak highly of the care they receive in the past 20 years. And, on cuts to the social safety net programs, just watch what happens next year when your heroes go after them to pay for the giveaway to their rich donors.

    It's all easy to see when you take the blinders off and stop buying the snake oil that "The Donald" is selling.
    Democrat talking points and fake news from the democrat run liberal media is not facts or truth. The proof is you refuse to discuss the deaths caused during Obama by VA officials

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    You also are spewing democrat talking points without showing any link or proof
    Are you still here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Considering what happened in the VA when Democrats were in charge of it, maybe turn down the self righteousness a scooch.

    Now would someone explain why allowing veterans to have a choice in who they go to for care is so horrible? Particularly when many don't have immediate access to a VA facility or have long wait times?
    I'm afraid I agree with @namvet69 here. I am 99.999% that if allowed, Trump will fuck over vets.

    He clearly has no respect for you guys, at all, and I haven't trusted the VA since Nixon.

    Have they EVER admitted that Agent Orange harms humans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    I'm afraid I agree with @namvet69 here. I am 99.999% that if allowed, Trump will fuck over vets.

    He clearly has no respect for you guys, at all, and I haven't trusted the VA since Nixon.

    Have they EVER admitted that Agent Orange harms humans?
    It was Obama and democrats that screwed vets and let them die waiting to see a doctor and then gave bonuses to those that allowed the Vets to die

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