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    Rods from God

    Do you believe this is a technology (which we have) that we should invest in?

    Its far superior to nuclear weapons with none of the problems of radiation, just far more expensive.

    I'm not talking the little guys we used in places like Vietnam, but the big Tungsten boys shot down from space.





    The Pentagon’s New Super Weapon Is Basically A Weaponized Meteor Strike

    Toiling away as a Boeing operations researcher in the afterglow of the Manhattan Project and the Soviet Union’s First Lightning nuclear test in 1949, the U.S. Army veteran envisioned a weapons system armed not with munitions and other chemical explosives, but massive rods forged from heavy metals dropped from sub-orbital heights. Those “tungsten thunderbolts,” as the New York Times called them, would impact enemy strongholds below with the devastating velocity of a dino-exterminating impact, obliterating highly fortified targets — like, say, Iranian centrifuges or North Korean bunkers — without the mess of nuclear fallout.

    Pournelle, whose years of experience in aerospace would fuel a career as a journalist and military science fiction writer, named his superweapon “Project Thor.” Others just called it “Rods From God.” In reality, weapons researchers refer to it as a “kinetic energy projectile”: a super-dense, super-fast projectile that, operating free of complex systems and volatile chemicals, destroys everything in its path.

    Explosives may be dazzling in their destructiveness, but there’s an elegant, almost Newtonian lethality to the kinetic energy projectile, explains Matt Weingart, a weapons program development manager at Lawrence Livermore.
    “The classic way of delivering hurt against a target has been to pack a lot of chemical explosive into a container of some kind, a barrel or a cannonball or steel bomb,” Weingart told Task & Purpose in a phone interview.

    “The violence comes from the chemical explosive inside that bomb sending off a blast wave, followed by the fragments of the bomb case. But the difference with kinetic energy projectiles is that the warhead arrives at the target moving very, very fast — the energy is there to propel those fragments without the use of a chemical explosive to accelerate them. The more mass, the more violence.”

    The concept of the hypersonic impact that defined Project Thor and its devastating potential hasn’t been lost on defense officials. Military researchers are continuing to explore battlefield applications that “take advantage of high terminal speeds to deliver much more energy onto a target than the chemical explosives they carry would deliver alone,” as Army Maj. Gen. William Hix put it at the Booz Allen Hamilton Direct Energy Summit in March.
    The Pentagon?s New Super Weapon Is Basically A Weaponized Meteor Strike
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    Jesus, how many fucking ways do we need to blow shit up?
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    More effective methods such as this can prevent further loss of life to innocent civilians.

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    Saw that, in the GI Joe movie

    Pretty badass.

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    What's amazing about them is they can be targeted like the one in your clip, for mass destruction, or centered for localized target only.

    Basically you can control the blast radius of the thing depending on how you configure it.
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    I can't be bothered searching for it but one article on this I read some months back said that the targeting was very crude. Not a smart weapon at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RNG View Post
    I can't be bothered searching for it but one article on this I read some months back said that the targeting was very crude. Not a smart weapon at all.
    Well that's completely inaccurate.

    As my link states:

    The KEP isn’t just appealing because of its elegance and relative cost-effectiveness (a super-dense tungsten warhead is relatively cheaper than conventional explosive munitions), but for its theoretical precision. The hypersonic shell is designed to defeat enemy armor and completely obliterate structures and equipment with extreme precision, whether it’s fired from ground artillery or deployed from an aerial — or orbital — platform. As Weingart explains, Hix’s vision is one of “raining down violence across a large area” — without, ostensibly, risking military personnel and hardware.

    And the KEP’s upside isn’t just precision in targeting, but precision in the level of violence that the weapon actually deals out. Because the shell’s “yield” is essentially a function of velocity and density rather than explosive payload, confining the impact’s devastating effects to a specific area is simply a matter of physics. *In theory, the KEP is “basic physics,” Weingart says, “but the implementation is really, really hard physics.”

    “Using our high computing capabilities, we can exercise a high degree of control over those effects,” says Weingart. “We’ve got the most extraordinary computing power in the world, and we can take exquisite knowledge of physics and put it into very sophisticated computer codes and run vast number problems to predict how things are going to behave in terms of speed and energy.”

    The KEP could offer a middle ground between the conventional precision GPS-guided munitions deployed by aircraft and high-yield, non-nuclear explosives like the GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast (MOAB), or “mother of all bombs,” used *against ISIS militants in Afghanistan in April. By adjusting the density of the KEP, military personnel could choose between defeating the armor on a single main battle tank and delivering violence wholesale (and simultaneously) across broad swaths of an operational area, without worrying about fallout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Well that's completely inaccurate.

    As my link states:
    My comment was only related to satellite delivery systems. The article I read didn't mention any other means of deployment.

    The uncertainties of reentry and the radiation from the heat of reentry, just like the period of time when there was no communication with the returning orbiting and Apollo modules would mess up the guidance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNG View Post
    My comment was only related to satellite delivery systems. The article I read didn't mention any other means of deployment.

    The uncertainties of reentry and the radiation from the heat of reentry, just like the period of time when there was no communication with the returning orbiting and Apollo modules would mess up the guidance.
    Like I said, not according to what they are saying.

    The hypersonic shell is designed to defeat enemy armor and completely obliterate structures and equipment with extreme precision, whether it’s fired from ground artillery or deployed from an aerial — or orbital — platform.
    I mean it wouldn't be any good if they couldn't hit what they are aiming at now would it?

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