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    Russia deploys NUKES to europe

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    MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia has deployed advanced nuclear-capable Iskander missiles to its Kaliningrad exclave on the Baltic Sea, the RIA news agency quoted a senior lawmaker as saying on Monday.

    Russia has said previous deployments of Iskander missiles to Kaliningrad, a slice of Russia wedged between Poland and Lithuania, were temporary and a response to the United States building up its forces in the Baltic region.

    Washington says placing such missile systems near the Baltic states and NATO member Poland is “destabilizing,” while U.S. officials have expressed concern that the deployments represent a permanent upgrade to Russia’s forces in the area.

    Vladimir Shamanov, head of the Russian lower house of parliament’s defense committee, said on Monday that Iskander missile systems had been sent to Kaliningrad, but did not say how many or for how long, RIA reported.

    “Yes, they have been deployed,” it quoted him as saying. “The deployment of foreign military infrastructure automatically falls onto the priority list for targeting.”

    The Iskander, a mobile ballistic missile system codenamed SS-26 Stone by NATO, replaced the Soviet Scud missile. Its two guided missiles have a range of up to 500 kilometers (about 300 miles) and can carry either conventional or nuclear warheads.
    Russia deploys Iskander nuclear-capable missiles to Kaliningrad: RIA

    Russia has criticized Lithuania’s reaction to the deployment of additional ballistic missile systems to a neighboring Russian exclave, saying the weapons posed no threat to the NATO Western military alliance member.

    After visiting NATO forces based in the town of Rukla, Lithuanian President Dalia Grybauskaite told reporters Monday that “Iskander missiles are being stationed in Kaliningrad for permanent presence as we speak” and that the nuclear-capable mobile missiles were a threat to “half of all European countries,” the Associated Press reported. Dmitry Peskov, spokesman for Russian President Vladimir Putin, said Tuesday that Russia had every right to place weapons on Russian soil.

    “I want to remind you that placing particular armaments and deploying specific military units on Russian territory are solely the sovereign issue of Russia,” Peskov said, according to the state-run Tass Russian News Agency.

    “Russia has never threatened and does not threaten anyone, but Russia, naturally, has the sovereign right [to deploy armaments on its territory], and that is why this should hardly be a cause for someone’s concern,” Peskov said.

    The installation of new Iskander missile systems in Kaliningrad was confirmed Monday by Vladimir Shamanov, head of the defense committee for Russia’s lower house of Parliament. He said the move came in response to NATO’s own military buildup along Russia’s borders, especially U.S. troops in Poland, which also borders the Russian exclave on the Baltic Sea.

    The U.S.-led military pact and Moscow revived their Cold War–era feud after Russia seized the former Ukrainian territory of Crimea amid political unrest in Kiev in 2014. Russia claimed it was done to protect the mostly ethnic Russian community in the Black Sea peninsula, but NATO considered it a violation of international law and has fortified border areas.

    As part of this plan, NATO has deployed multinational battle groups and various equipment to the three Baltic countries—Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia—along with Poland. The Russian military has previously sent Iskander missile systems to neighboring Kaliningrad, a move that the U.S. and fellow NATO members have condemned as being provocative.

    “Any deployment close to our borders of missiles that can carry nuclear warheads does not help to lower tensions. In the spirit of transparency, we look forward to hearing more from Russia on this,” Reuters cited a NATO official as saying Tuesday.

    “It is important to determine the exact situation. NATO is alert, we understand the capability, but we also understand that the Russians have been moving equipment in and out of Kaliningrad for a long time,” the official added.

    The Iskander has been described as one of Russia’s most advanced missile systems, capable of firing several kinds of ballistic and cruise missiles up to hundreds of miles away. The Iskander can also be equipped to use electromagnetic pulses, earth-penetrating missiles known as bunker busters and nuclear warheads, among other weapons.

    The U.S. has accused Russia of violating the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty by equipping the Iskander-K variant with R-500 intermediate-range cruise missiles capable of traveling beyond 310 miles. The treaty restricts ground-based missiles that can travel between 310 and 3,000 miles. Russia has countered its rival with arguments that the U.S. has violated the treaty by deploying the Aegis missile shield in Europe.
    Russia Tells NATO Not to Worry About New Missiles on the Border

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    The Iskander launcher system can also fire much longer range Kalibr missiles, Russia's answer to Tomahawk, if necessary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3M-54_Kalibr

    The Ukrainians have also claimed that Russia deployed Iskander to Crimea as well, back in December of 2014: Ukraine military say Russia deploys Iskander air defense missiles in Crimea

    Russia did not comment on that, as far as I am aware. But, in 2015, they also redeployed nuclear-capable Tu-22M bombers to Crimea as well

    TASS: Russia - Russian strategic bombers to be redeployed to Crimea amid snap check - source

    Russian strategy for relations with NATO does rely heavily on nuclear deterrence. So, from that POV, it is an understandable course. Still irresponsible, in my opinion. Weapons of mass destruction is not something to wave in your rivals faces...
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    It’s 2018.

    World powers are countries that invent iPads and animated films and political advancements and designer evening gowns. They drive stock markets. They mobilize labour. They effect progress.

    It’s not 1950.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Well, possibly:



    Russia deploys Iskander nuclear-capable missiles to Kaliningrad: RIA



    Russia Tells NATO Not to Worry About New Missiles on the Border

    Iskander


    The Iskander launcher system can also fire much longer range Kalibr missiles, Russia's answer to Tomahawk, if necessary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3M-54_Kalibr

    The Ukrainians have also claimed that Russia deployed Iskander to Crimea as well, back in December of 2014: Ukraine military say Russia deploys Iskander air defense missiles in Crimea

    Russia did not comment on that, as far as I am aware. But, in 2015, they also redeployed nuclear-capable Tu-22M bombers to Crimea as well

    TASS: Russia - Russian strategic bombers to be redeployed to Crimea amid snap check - source

    Russian strategy for relations with NATO does rely heavily on nuclear deterrence. So, from that POV, it is an understandable course. Still irresponsible, in my opinion. Weapons of mass destruction is not something to wave in your rivals faces...
    NATOs build up in Poland was a reaction to Putin's actions in Crimea. Who saw that one coming.
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    FFS - The US promised that it would not invade the border countries when the USSR let them go - it did invade and is still there with more and more and heavier and heavier weaponry.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    NATOs build up in Poland was a reaction to Putin's actions in Crimea. Who saw that one coming.
    BS - The Ukraine was a NATO coup for Israel - Israel wants the Ukraine for its second homeland -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    It’s 2018.

    World powers are countries that invent iPads and animated films and political advancements and designer evening gowns. They drive stock markets. They mobilize labour. They effect progress.

    It’s not 1950.
    Don't kid yourself. A nuclear weapon will screw up your day far worse than any designer evening gown ever created.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fenrir View Post
    Don't kid yourself. A nuclear weapon will screw up your day far worse than any designer evening gown ever created.
    Never worry, Fat Nixon has this, he will kneel before Putin and make it all better....
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    Quote Originally Posted by allegoricalfact View Post
    BS - The Ukraine was a NATO coup for Israel - Israel wants the Ukraine for its second homeland -
    ?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    Never worry, Fat Nixon has this, he will kneel before Putin and make it all better....
    They're on Europe's borders, not mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegoricalfact View Post
    BS - The Ukraine was a NATO coup for Israel - Israel wants the Ukraine for its second homeland -
    Um, what?

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