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    Quote Originally Posted by carpe diem View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by carpe diem View Post
    the same idiot that thinks Trump is more dangerous to this nation than terrorist nations that have openly said they wish to destroy us.
    Terrorist nations only threaten..Trump and his complicit GOP are actually destroying this nation from within.
    Idiots like you can't understand that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    Considering that this country and it's main allies spend 3 out of every 4 dollars spent worldwide on their military. I think its budget in part should be used to support the troops with what they need , a sensible increase in wages and the support for the vets . I'd gladly see a couple aircraft carriers sidelined for good when their working history is done, to achieve that goal.
    There is no other group as political as the military and their legions of blind followers.
    Because:

    "Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
    Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
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    "Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
    The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
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    "Supremacy of the Military
    Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
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    Never mind, that most of our enemies, including Russia, have found much less expensive ways to take down other nations and defeat or engage a nation that still uses conventional means to fight wars.

    Russia simply employs internet trolls/shills/posers (I imagine a few have been assigned to this website) who promote candidates in other nations that are favorable toward them. Others also use social media to recruit "soldiers" to fight for their causes and lone wolves to latch on to their "cause".

    Trump and his supporters seem to think the "again" in make "America Great Again" is going back to a WWII style military build up, when there is no WWII going on and where our massively expensive military can't seem to defeat groups like the Taliban in 17 years of "war" in Afghanistan. We want to bar North Korea from maintaining, nukes. That works how, when we maintain an arsenal of nukes? All North Korea has to say is, look, when you get rid of your nukes, so will we. No other nation in the nuclear age has even actually used nuclear weapons to killed tens of thousands of people in minutes, than the one that wants everyone else to not have the same thing they do.

    Trump says other nations were laughing at America, but they're laughing even more, at him.






    "Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations."

    "American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions."

    "This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence – economic, political, even spiritual – is felt in every city, every Statehouse, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society."

    "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."

    "We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."

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    Quote Originally Posted by carpe diem View Post
    Hey genius. You ever heard of a weak defense keeping others from attacking you?
    Hey genius, what particularly weak about the U.S. military that it NEEDS so much MORE money?
    What? We need desperately to replace all the fighters, bombers & choppers downed by the fierce Taliban Air Force in Afghanistan? The armored divisions decimated in Iraq and Syria by the hordes of ISIS tanks?
    Be specific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carpe diem View Post
    Nowhere near as lame as the left's black and white cowardly approach to national defense, because it is messy and ugly.
    No problems with messy and ugly.
    It's stupid and ineffective we object to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    Considering that this country and it's main allies spend 3 out of every 4 dollars spent worldwide on their military. I think its budget in part should be used to support the troops with what they need , a sensible increase in wages and the support for the vets . I'd gladly see a couple aircraft carriers sidelined for good when their working history is done, to achieve that goal.
    There is no other group as political as the military and their legions of blind followers.
    Dumb question! Because the MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX has more lobbyists than even GOD!
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    Yeah, the US has a shit health system and low educational standards, but yeah, by all means throw more money at the military.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    I thought Camp Humphreys was in Korea...
    What does it matter? The U.S. taxpayer is STILL paying for the expense of it. Correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blues63 View Post
    Yeah, the US has a shit health system and low educational standards, but yeah, by all means throw more money at the military.
    F-35 is a trillion +

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    What does it matter? The U.S. taxpayer is STILL paying for the expense of it. Correct?
    It matters because it is about 14 time zones away.

    Different continent, and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    It matters because it is about 14 time zones away.

    Different continent, and all that.
    Does the U.S. taxpayer pay for the expense of that base or do they not? Can you not read and understand English?

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