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    Soviet pilot found ALIVE in Afghanistan

    A Russian war pilot presumed to be shot down in Afghanistan in the 1980s has reportedly turned up alive, decades after Soviet troops pulled out of the Islamic republic.

    Officially, 417 Soviet soldiers were declared a missing or as prisoners of war in the 1979-1989 conflict that saw over 15,000 Soviet military losses.

    Valery Vostrotin, the head of Russia’s union of airborne troops, told the state-run RIA Novosti news agency that the newly-found pilot’s return would require “not only financial but also administrative, civil society and diplomatic efforts.”

    “It’s very unusual,” Vostrotin told RIA, declining to provide the pilot’s name, citing concerns over confidentiality.

    The missing soldier looks forward to returning to Russia, Vyacheslav Kalinin, a senior member of the Boyevoye Bratstvo (Brothers in Arms) organization, told the agency.

    “What’s surprising isn’t even that the pilot stayed alive after his aircraft was shot down by the mujahideen, but the fact that we haven’t received any information about him for decades,” he was quoted as saying.
    Missing Soviet Pilot Turns Up Alive in Afghanistan, 30 Years After War

    General Valery Vostrotin, Afghan War vet, head of Airborne Troops Union, and also head of the Moscow branch of the Combat Brotherhood


    Vyacheslav Kalinin


    The Brotherhood, FYI, is not exactly as entirely a reputable organization as it sounds... Since the 90s, or even late 80s, really, starting with guys returning from Afghan, they've been accused of involvement in organized crime, using the combat veterans they take in as highly trained muscle to force out regular mafia groups, unable to stand up to their superior fighting skills and experience, not to mention access to firepower, even RPGs and portable rocket launchers, from their connections in the military. These guys are said to still control half the illegal taxis in Moscow, for example. I personally saw a TV broadcast couple years back, where a reporter was investigating marshrutkas, illegal taxi minibuses, in Moscow, and talking to drivers, mainly illegal immigrants from Central Asia, and then a group of big, burly Slavic guys with short military hair cuts, looked like ex-Paratroopers or Marines, appeared and told him and his cameraman to get the hell out of there if they know what;s good for them, pretty much; they were wise enough to take the advice. Those boys introduced themselves as "Combat Brotherhood"... Just saying... They also have supplied mercenaries to Wagner Group and such.

    Anyway, as far this thing, it is interesting. In truth, there are hundreds of ex-Soviet troops, who have gone missing during the war in Afghanistan, gone native, and are still living there, many now have families there

    Russian Soldiers Start a Second Life in Afghanistan

    This guy, according to some rumors I read, was shot down by the mojaheds, picked up by pro-Soviet Afghan villagers, possibly he was injured, and they may have nursed him back to health. Nobody understands why he never tried to make it back to any Soviet base in the area. He just stayed there, in that village, and lived there for last three decades. Some think he may have even got back in touch, secretly, with his family back in Russia, over the years, let them know he is alive and well; but they hid it, so could continue receiving the relatively generous payments from the Ministry of Defense for next of kin of troops who are KIA or MIA and presumed dead...

    It is possible he too converted to Islam and had a new family there. Or could have been a Muslim to begin with, depending on which ethnic group he is from. When his name is released, we'll know.

    Fascinating, regardless.

    Hell... I heard there were left behind American troops also living in Vietnam, decades after that war. So, all is possible. War is crazy...
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    Pretty interesting.

    Definitely does something to you psychologically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    Pretty interesting.

    Definitely does something to you psychologically.
    That's what I wonder about... This guy apparently wants to come back now, supposedly. But this will be even more difficult for him than those US troops coming back from Vietnam.

    He left, thirty + years ago, a very different country, very different society, than the one he'd now be returning. As some people also say online, to those who congratulate him on coming home: "His home is gone." Soviet Union, which he left into the Red Army, is gone. It's a totally different place to him, as alien as Afghanistan must have been when he arrived there back then...

    How he will re-adapt, is anyone guess...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Missing Soviet Pilot Turns Up Alive in Afghanistan, 30 Years After War

    General Valery Vostrotin, Afghan War vet, head of Airborne Troops Union, and also head of the Moscow branch of the Combat Brotherhood


    Vyacheslav Kalinin


    The Brotherhood, FYI, is not exactly as entirely a reputable organization as it sounds... Since the 90s, or even late 80s, really, starting with guys returning from Afghan, they've been accused of involvement in organized crime, using the combat veterans they take in as highly trained muscle to force out regular mafia groups, unable to stand up to their superior fighting skills and experience, not to mention access to firepower, even RPGs and portable rocket launchers, from their connections in the military. These guys are said to still control half the illegal taxis in Moscow, for example. I personally saw a TV broadcast couple years back, where a reporter was investigating marshrutkas, illegal taxi minibuses, in Moscow, and talking to drivers, mainly illegal immigrants from Central Asia, and then a group of big, burly Slavic guys with short military hair cuts, looked like ex-Paratroopers or Marines, appeared and told him and his cameraman to get the hell out of there if they know what;s good for them, pretty much; they were wise enough to take the advice. Those boys introduced themselves as "Combat Brotherhood"... Just saying... They also have supplied mercenaries to Wagner Group and such.

    Anyway, as far this thing, it is interesting. In truth, there are hundreds of ex-Soviet troops, who have gone missing during the war in Afghanistan, gone native, and are still living there, many now have families there

    Russian Soldiers Start a Second Life in Afghanistan

    This guy, according to some rumors I read, was shot down by the mojaheds, picked up by pro-Soviet Afghan villagers, possibly he was injured, and they may have nursed him back to health. Nobody understands why he never tried to make it back to any Soviet base in the area. He just stayed there, in that village, and lived there for last three decades. Some think he may have even got back in touch, secretly, with his family back in Russia, over the years, let them know he is alive and well; but they hid it, so could continue receiving the relatively generous payments from the Ministry of Defense for next of kin of troops who are KIA or MIA and presumed dead...

    It is possible he too converted to Islam and had a new family there. Or could have been a Muslim to begin with, depending on which ethnic group he is from. When his name is released, we'll know.

    Fascinating, regardless.

    Hell... I heard there were left behind American troops also living in Vietnam, decades after that war. So, all is possible. War is crazy...
    The most extreme story of this sort is this Japanese soldier, who was hiding out in the jungles of the Philippines for almost 30 years (!!) after the end of World War II before he was finally convinced to 'surrender':

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroo_Onoda

    Edit: Actually, I guess this story of the Soviet guy being found alive in Afghanistan actually does TOP the Japanese soldier guy by about a year. It IS amazing, no question!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    The most extreme story of this sort is this Japanese soldier, who was hiding out in the jungles of the Philippines for almost 30 years (!!) after the end of World War II before he was finally convinced to 'surrender':

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroo_Onoda

    Edit: Actually, I guess this story of the Soviet guy being found alive in Afghanistan actually does TOP the Japanese soldier guy by about a year. It IS amazing, no question!
    The difference is the the Japanese soldier continued to fight those he still considered to be his country's enemy for all those years. He did NOT join the society of a rural Philippine village and assimilate. He stayed a Japanese soldier behind "enemy" lines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    The most extreme story of this sort is this Japanese soldier, who was hiding out in the jungles of the Philippines for almost 30 years (!!) after the end of World War II before he was finally convinced to 'surrender':

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroo_Onoda

    Edit: Actually, I guess this story of the Soviet guy being found alive in Afghanistan actually does TOP the Japanese soldier guy by about a year. It IS amazing, no question!
    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    The difference is the the Japanese soldier continued to fight those he still considered to be his country's enemy for all those years. He did NOT join the society of a rural Philippine village and assimilate. He stayed a Japanese soldier behind "enemy" lines.
    Only comparable story to that I have heard of is a tale of some Soviet partizan (guerilla) cell, who also didn't know the war ended in 1945, and went on with their activities deep in some forest in, I believe, Smolensk region, including derailing what they thought was a German cargo train... in the mid-60s, at that point lol

    That one's just a local legend though, no concrete evidence it actually happened...
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