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    It is basically a rip-off of our Admiral Kuznetsov





    Which is a good ship, but definately far inferior to American Nimitz carriers. Nothing to worry about, my friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gypsy View Post
    It makes sense that they have the first of what will be many air carriers. They are the next super power.
    yup. this first one is a testbed. Rumour is the Chinese navy have already laid the keel on two indigenous built aircraft carriers.

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    Here was the AP I had put up on it in the Asia Section.....S.O.S. Clinton Declares US as Resident Power in South China Sea....

    US takes hard line on North Korea, South China Sea - Yahoo! News
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    The ASEAN Regional Forum that brought together 27 nations from the U.S., Asia and Europe opened with a buzz early Saturday, with South Korea's foreign minister, Kim Sung-hwan, and the North's Pak Ui Chun chatting and walking casually into the conference hall together.

    Declaring the United States a "resident power" with vital strategic interests throughout the Asia-Pacific, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said North Korea must do more to improve ties with the South before Washington will consider resuming talks aimed at getting Pyongyang to abandon nuclear weapons in return for concessions."But we remain firm that in order for six-party talks to resume, North Korea must take steps to improve North-South relations," she said. "North Korea continues to present a critical proliferation challenge to the international community and to threaten regional stability with its provocative actions."

    In addition, Clinton laid out specific guidelines for the peaceful settlement of competing territorial claims in the South China Sea, saying recent threats and flare-ups are endangering the security that has driven the region's economic growth and prosperity.Since the last round of talks, North Korea has conducted a second nuclear test and revealed a uranium enrichment facility that could give it another way to make atomic bombs. Recent threats against Seoul's conservative government include a vow to retaliate over soldiers' use of pictures of the ruling North Korean family for target practice.

    Ahead of Saturday's conference, China and its Southeast Asian neighbors agreed to a preliminary plan to resolve territorial disputes in the potentially resource-rich South China Sea.

    Philippine Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario said there have been at least seven aggressive intrusions this year in waters that were 85 nautical miles from the nearest island in his country and 600 nautical miles from China's coast.
    "If Philippine sovereign rights can be denigrated" by China's baseless historical claims to the South China Sea, he said, "many countries should begin to contemplate the potential threat to navigation."

    Clinton urged all parties to show restraint and to comply with international law "and resolve their disputes through peaceful means." It's vital, she said, that they work together.

    As a starting point, the Obama administration wants all nations to map out their territory in terms consistent with customary international law, a senior U.S. official said on condition he not be named, adding that many of the claims seem to be "exaggerated."

    Clinton and the foreign ministers of Japan and South Korea met on the sidelines of the security forum to assess the situation and plot a way forward.....snip-

    The AP states we took a Hard line stance against N. Korea. What have we done that is any different since the last talks? Now we are Declaring ourselves A Resident Power in the South China Sea with Vital Strategic Interests. N. Korea not only Test-fired another missile but also built a uranium enrichment center. Of Course once again.....looks like all is looking at the oil issue, as they all believe.....there is a vast bed of oil under the seabed, and fish in abundance in this region. Should we be declaring ourselves as a Resident Power? It does say that Clinton laid out specific guidelines.....yet none were mentioned in the AP. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedminator View Post
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    Boilers, diesels? snicker snicker.
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    I believe it has to have a "ski jump" because it hasn't got a catapult system.

    snicker.

    China has sooo far to go.. At least 50 years behind. No offensive threat whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Media Critic View Post
    Yep Plus the Phillipines and the Vietmanese have already expressed their concerns.....but SOS Clinton has already told all that the US is a Resident power in the South China Sea.
    yuppers. and the more belligerent China gets towards her neighbors, the more it drives those countries in that area into the USA's sphere of influence..


    Vietnam navy chief seeks expansion of defence cooperation - Yahoo!

    New Delhi (IANS) Vietnam's navy chief and deputy minister Vice Admiral Nguyen Van Hien Monday met his Indian counterpart Admiral Nirmal Verma here when the two sides discussed security challenges in the Indian Ocean region, apart from the scope for expanding defence cooperation between the two countries. Nguyen, who arrived in India June 24, also discussed possibilities of India's help to build capacities of the Vietnamese naval force, which is small and growing, when compared with the Indian Navy.
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    DEFENSE STUDIES: India to Help Vietnam Build a Submarine Fleet
    10 Agustus 2011
    In the framework of building a strategic partnership, the Indian Navy will help Vietnam develop Navy submarine fleet. Cooperation in the field of defense is a fundamental part of the framework to build a strategic partnership between India and Vietnam
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    Kilo submarine of the Indian Navy
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    Just like the Brits though, those type of carriers are limited to carrying "Jump-Jet" type aircraft which severely limits their capabilities compared to our Nimitz class carriers.

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    Didn't Gates state something about the Chinese have a missile designed to specifically take out a Carrier? Plus we know the Chinese has their Sub, too. That now could deliver that knockout blow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Media Critic View Post
    Didn't Gates state something about the Chinese have a missile designed to specifically take out a Carrier? Plus we know the Chinese has their Sub, too. That now could deliver that knockout blow.
    What's it matter if a missle is designed specifically to take out a carrier? If the missile has enough penetrating power and enough high explosives it's just a matter of how many it will take and where they impact.

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