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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    You should have heard me when I actually was high on cocaine much of the time.
    This is explanatory on many levels. Great post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrmike View Post
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    But if a government can't even define what "Win" would mean in war, it can't be achieved.

    How could the U.S."Win" against ISIS in the ME?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    But if a government can't even define what "Win" would mean in war, it can't be achieved.

    How could the U.S."Win" against ISIS in the ME?
    The same thing we did to AQ in Iraq: deplete, interdict, undermine.

    It is guerrilla warfare, so I suggest you attract them to you, then obliterate them.

    Oooops, we pulled all our forces out....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Detective Mike Logan View Post
    What are the best tactics in war??
    The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.
    -Sun Tzu, The Art of War



    Heres a practical demonstration of it by Bruce Lee...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne View Post
    Strategy is formulating a plan. Tactics are how you carry out that plan.
    Tactics are noise before defeat if there is no strategy.

    But my favorite quote from Art of War is "build a bridge of gold for your enemies to retreat across".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    But if a government can't even define what "Win" would mean in war, it can't be achieved.

    How could the U.S."Win" against ISIS in the ME?
    Actually not true.

    There are two philosophies of the word "win" in this application.

    There is a military win - the U.S. has won militarily in every war so far except the Bay of pigs.

    Then there is a Political win - the U.S. has lost every war since WWII due to politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparta View Post
    Tactics are noise before defeat if there is no strategy.

    But my favorite quote from Art of War is "build a bridge of gold for your enemies to retreat across".
    Great piece of work, the Art of war but the author is mistaken.

    Blow the damn bridge up and decimate your enemy completely.

    (paraphrased from General Swarzkoph.)

    You can see this tactic on the highway of death leading out of Kuwait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snikitz View Post
    Great piece of work, the Art of war but the author is mistaken.

    Blow the damn bridge up and decimate your enemy completely.

    (paraphrased from General Swarzkoph.)

    You can see this tactic on the highway of death leading out of Kuwait.
    I think the idea is to manipulate your enemies' tactics, not necessarily allow an escape, at least that's how I read it while considering the rest of the book's content.

    one of the lessons is to leave your own force no opportunity to retreat, reasoning that a force who's only hope to escape death is victory will fight harder, so I would disagree with Swarzkop based on that point as well as the point that if you can put yourself in a position to lead enemy forces you've got a reasonable chance at victory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    "Get there the firstest with the moistest." C.S.A. Gen, Nathan Bedford Forrest
    Actually...it was MOST.. not moist. Close enough.

    Tactics? Hit hard and fast if you can. If you can't.. then use surprise or sheer tenacity. Ho Chi Mihn and Gen Giap.. prevailed by just never quitting. To France or the USA..there was a point where.. it was not WORTH it. Afghanistan? Deja Vu. It's home field advantage. Viet Nam? Iraq? Afghanistan? What are they WORTH? To us.... not a lot. To the locals? a lot more. TENACITY. We'd rather go home. They ARE home.

    what tactics overcomes that factor?

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    My favorite stratigy was the one that Ceasar used in The Battle For The Planet of the Apes!!! Cool shit, man!


    When the human atomic mutants attack Ape City, forcing Caesar to order the simion defenders to fall back, the mutant comander finds Caesar lying wounded amongst the apes on the ground. He taunts him, saying the apes would once again be humanity's slaves or die, and is about to shoot him....

    Suddenly, Caesar shouts, "Get up, fight like apes!," and most of the fallen apes all around them, who were only feigning death (clearly on Caesar's orders) or hiding, launch a counter-attack that captures most of the mutants and drives the humans into retreat. Kolp and his remaining forces are killed by the apes and their mounted troops!!!!

    Thats how you kill the enemey......you cheat!!!!

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