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    Quote Originally Posted by Detective Mike Logan View Post
    to be fair they got some things right (well close)
    About the CLOSEST accurate prediction of the future (from a previous time) that I've read is E.M. Forster's "The Machine Stops".

    It accurately predicts a future where people are isolated in small rooms....interacting with other human beings, not directly and in person, by via a "telescreen".

    It was originally published in 1909.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGecko View Post
    About the CLOSEST accurate prediction of the future (from a previous time) that I've read is E.M. Forster's "The Machine Stops".

    It accurately predicts a future where people are isolated in small rooms....interacting with other human beings, not directly and in person, by via a "telescreen".

    It was originally published in 1909.

    Just imagine how that would be. Isn't it a good thing we don't.....


    Oh, right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Just imagine how that would be. Isn't it a good thing we don't.....

    Oh, right.
    "The Machine Stops" is available for free on-line....check it out. Obviously Forster is a Turn-of-the-Century person (in 1909, the airplane had only been around for 6 years, telephones for 30, and radio was still just telegraphy)....

    but it strikes an eerily familiar tone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGecko View Post
    "The Machine Stops" is available for free on-line....check it out. Obviously Forster is a Turn-of-the-Century person (in 1909, the airplane had only been around for 6 years, telephones for 30, and radio was still just telegraphy)....

    but it strikes an eerily familiar tone.
    We have come so far in such a short time, and the pace of change keeps accelerating. It's difficult to even imagine what we might see in the next few decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thx1138 View Post
    We had some old flight simulators that almost resembled that um, PC.

    Back then, ferrite "core" memory, the old "RAM", an array of tiny iron rings with wires woven through, hand woven, the stuff used to cost $7,000 per K-bit.

    http://i57.tinypic.com/33xzx8p.jpg

    Our sim circa 1967 cost $35 million.

    The fastest system was the Raytheon computer for the radar which crunched along @ 500 meg.

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    Thank you for that post, you piqued my curiosity and got me looking up how that stuff works. It's fascinating!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote View Post
    Thank you for that post, you piqued my curiosity and got me looking up how that stuff works. It's fascinating!
    Thank you, glad you enjoy this old-tech stuff, I find it fascinating too.

    We went to some extraordinary measures and spent a lot of money sometimes to get things they would just build an app for now.

    I know $35 million was a lot of money back then, you could have bought a whole neighborhood and thrown in a supermarket and a hotel, lol.

    And military stuff, especially such a specialty item like a flight sim is going to be very pricey no matter what.

    Simulators also save a lot more money than they cost.

    But, it's not like you didn't get anything for the money either, that system simulated everything but G-forces, and some sims can even do a bit of that, the F-15 sim has the extra-full motion-base and will lurch forward to give you a bit of the sensation.

    Here is the cockpit of an F-111 sim, the one I spent most of my time on,



    I also did the F-4 for my first six months to help them put some digital modifications to it before they shipped it off to the Air National Guard.

    It had a full motion base and radar, I took a lot of back-seaters, WSOs for rides and killed a lot of simulated soviet aircraft.

    But the F-4 was really an analog system and had racks and racks of servo/synchro/motor assemblies, some almost incomprehensibly complicated with the gearing and all, something you just hope never busts!

    Giant "motherboards" of transistors and other discreet components, and you hoped that didn't bust either because you could never find your way through that multi-layered PC board and all that junk, lol!

    The "interface" was a cabinet where all the wires coming off the cockpit and console parts of the sim meet the wires connecting to all the racks on the other side, all the electronics driving those and it looks more like something you would see at the phone company, bundles, and bundles, and bundles, and...

    Our F-111 had not been fully powered-down in 9 years. If you reset the main power on a big system like that, you got nothing but bugs and bugs that will take the whole shop a week to get sorted out, lol.





    I used to feel like Mr. Sulu sitting there and spent a lot of time on the F-111 at console-left operating the radar homing and warning system and shooting surface to air missiles at the guys^

    And, if something went wrong I would go back into the racks and dig around and usually managed to keep 'em flying.

    All in all, the F-111 was an "ECL Hybrid" system. ECL stands for "emitter-coupled logic" and was the old high-speed of it's day, a "hybrid" system is where several systems are integrated into one big super-system. We had systems by Raytheon, General Dynamics, American Airlines (<has their own "core memory" unit) , Singer-Link, Sperry, McDonnell Douglas and even some old IBM and Burroughs stuff for the software guys.

    It sure was a fun job though!





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    Quote Originally Posted by Thx1138 View Post
    I saw this pic years ago at another forum and have been looking for it ever since...



    It's a 1950s idea of the home computer, and just look at all the gauges and dials on that behemoth! (It even has a steering wheel!)

    The "monitor" looks like it was tacked on as an afterthought, just in case you got tired of doing calculations and looking at the indicator lights and dials, maybe relax for a while with some I Love Lucy....

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    Imagin if they saw my 3 yr old nephew playing on his Andrid tablet.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwood View Post
    Imagin if they saw my 3 yr old nephew playing on his Andrid tablet.....
    I have sometimes wondered what would happen if you suddenly transported someone from 500 years ago or even 100 years ago into our time.. would they go instantly stark raving mad.. or perhaps be very impressed?

    Heck, the level of technology sometimes scares me and I wonder where we will end up with it.

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