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    Because money is more blessed as well as the person who carries it if it has Andy's face on it.
    He might not feel honored by it , but when he sees the good luck it brings people, that is the sacrifice He is willing to take!
    Also, beings that He accomplished the impossible, that could still motivate people to believe in God, Destiny, or the power of believing in oneself, even if He was an ass hole.
    "Luck?" Money brings "luck?" That's the stupid argument you're going with? I could validly say that putting the face of Jim Varney on the $20 bill would bring as much (or more) luck than that of Andrew Jackson.

    And what "sacrifice" are you talking about? Jackson was dead long before 1928, when he first appeared on the $20 bill, and he never gave any indication that he wanted to be honored (or more likely, insulted) as such.

    You must really hate Andrew Jackson, if you're willing to pervert his deeply held ideals for something as silly as "luck."
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    Andrew Jackson: A man nicknamed “Indian killer” and “Sharp Knife” surely deserves the top spot on a list of worst U.S. Presidents. Andrew Jackson “was a forceful proponent of Indian removal,” according to PBS. Others have a less genteel way of describing the seventh president of the United States.

    “Andrew Jackson was a wealthy slave owner and infamous Indian killer, gaining the nickname ‘Sharp Knife’ from the Cherokee,” writes Amargi on the website Unsettling America: Decolonization in Theory & Practice. “He was also the founder of the Democratic Party, demonstrating that genocide against indigenous people is a nonpartisan issue. His first effort at Indian fighting was waging a war against the Creeks. President Jefferson had appointed him to appropriate Creek and Cherokee lands. In his brutal military campaigns against Indians, Andrew Jackson recommended that troops systematically kill Indian women and children after massacres in order to complete the extermination. The Creeks lost 23 million acres of land in southern Georgia and central Alabama, paving the way for cotton plantation slavery. His frontier warfare and subsequent ‘negotiations’ opened up much of the southeast U.S. to settler colonialism.”

    Jackson was not only a genocidal maniac against the Indigenous Peoples of the southwest, he was also racist against African peoples and a scofflaw who “violated nearly every standard of justice,” according to historian Bertram Wyatt-Brown. As a major general in 1818, Jackson invaded Spanish Florida chasing fugitive slaves who had escaped with the intent of returning them to their “owners,” and sparked the First Seminole War. During the conflict, Jackson captured two British men, Alexander George Arbuthnot and Robert C. Ambrister, who were living among the Seminoles. The Seminoles had resisted Jackson’s invasion of their land. One of the men had written about his support for the Seminoles’ land and treaty rights in letters found on a boat. Jackson used the “evidence” to accuse the men of “inciting” the Seminoles to “savage warfare” against the U.S. He convened a “special court martial” tribunal then had the men executed. “His actions were a study in flagrant disobedience, gross inequality and premeditated ruthlessness… he swept through Florida, crushed the Indians, executed Arbuthnot and Ambrister, and violated nearly every standard of justice,” Wyatt-Brown wrote.

    In 1830, a year after he became president, Jackson signed a law that he had proposed – the Indian Removal Act – which legalized ethnic cleansing. Within seven years 46,000 indigenous people were removed from their homelands east of the Mississippi. Their removal gave 25 million acres of land “to white settlement and to slavery,” according to PBS. The area was home to the Cherokee, Creek, Choctaw, Chickasaw and Seminole nations. In the Trail of Tears alone, 4,000 Cherokee people died of cold, hunger, and disease on their way to the western lands.

    Read more at http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwor...esidents-98997

    @PopeADope You think Muslims are bad, what about a man who murders thousands of innocent women and children? That's ok?
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    Query why Trump announced he will remove Harriet Tubman from the $20 bill.

    Because she was female or because she was black?

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    I absolutely despise Andrew Jackson.

    And yes, I know he was a democrat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Query why Trump announced he will remove Harriet Tubman from the $20 bill.

    Because she was female or because she was black?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PopeADope View Post
    Because money is more blessed as well as the person who carries it if it has Andy's face on it.

    He might not feel honored by it , but when he sees the good luck it brings people, that is the sacrifice He is willing to take!

    Also, beings that He accomplished the impossible, that could still motivate people to believe in God, Destiny, or the power of believing in oneself, even if He was an ass hole.
    You do realize the motherfucker is dead, don't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Query why Trump announced he will remove Harriet Tubman from the $20 bill.

    Because she was female or because she was black?
    Trump has no clue what Jackson did in his life. He's an uneducated yes man for ex-tea party haters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Query why Trump announced he will remove Harriet Tubman from the $20 bill.

    Because she was female or because she was black?
    While Jackson was a slave owner, he was actually more humane to slaves than other owners of the day. My problem with the asshole was that he would kill women and children and his war practices amounted to crimes that were worthy of prison.

    I say, take him off the 20, he never deserved the honor.
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    Fuck Andrew Jackson, he doesn't deserve dick and I wish him demon rape in hell.
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    We as a race of Caucasians didn't treat the native americans very well either, we killed and slaughtered millions of them to expand the country, Andrew Jackson isn't the only one to hurt them, if there is one race I hold much respect for it is our Native Americans, we were barbarians during that time. They were here before us but we made sure we got rid of them to whatever degree we needed to conquer the west. Don't just hammer down on Jackson.

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