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    Did Britain Have A Red Scare in the 1970's?

    Gen. Walker appears to be the godson of Joe McCarthy! Holy Toledo, that Sandhurst Exercise was apparently a dress rehearsal for a violent coup!

    And in the 1970's!

    Did this "hunting communists" in Britain actually occur?

    @Leo2, @Dangermouse

    I cannot excuse, but can almost understand the Red Scare here, so soon after the end of WWII.

    But not 20 years later!

    (I love documentaries on YouTube, but I don't take them all at face value.)
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    As a reminder, our 50's red scare has some of its PLAYERS rooted right here and right now in the middle of TRUMP'S scandal. I know this has been mentioned, but worth a reminder.

    Roy Cohen was MCCARTHY'S right hand man. Cohen mentored STONE. Stone was an operator with Manafort and all were NIXONITES! I'm posting this again as well--worth remembering. This is Roger Stone's BACK...

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    The House on Un-American Activities Committee lasted until 1975, destroyed people's lives, put them out of work, and accomplished nothing.

    I doubt the UK ever had something as fascist as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cpicturetaker12 View Post
    As a reminder, our 50's red scare has some of its PLAYERS rooted right here and right now in the middle of TRUMP'S scandal. I know this has been mentioned, but worth a reminder.

    Roy Cohen was MCCARTHY'S right hand man. Cohen mentored STONE. Stone was an operator with Manafort and all were NIXONITES! I'm posting this again as well--worth remembering. This is Roger Stone's BACK...

    Who is Roger Stone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paris View Post
    The House on Un-American Activities Committee lasted until 1975, destroyed people's lives, put them out of work, and accomplished nothing.

    I doubt the UK ever had something as fascist as that.
    Until 1975? It wasn't closed when the Senate ejected McCarthy? (1956, I think.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Who is Roger Stone?
    Thing is, anyone actually involved in the McCarthy witchhunts would have to be in their 80's now.

    Probably 90's.

    There certainly are fascists in American politics, but I can't draw a line between anyone in Trump's administration and any key figure in the witchhunts.

    Apart from Trump himself, as you point out. Roy Cohn and J. Edgar Hoover were most likely the brains of the whole operation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Until 1975? It wasn't closed when the Senate ejected McCarthy? (1956, I think.)
    No.

    "The House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) (aka, The House Committee on Un-American Activities, HUAC or HCUA) was an investigative committee of the United States House of Representatives. The HUAC was created in 1938 to investigate alleged disloyalty and subversive activities on the part of private citizens, public employees, and those organizations suspected of having communist ties. In 1969, the House changed the committee's name to "House Committee on Internal Security". When the House abolished the committee in 1975, its functions were transferred to the House Judiciary Committee."

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hous...ties_Committee

    In 1938, one would think that fighting fascism was more a pressing matter than fighting communism; but not in the US, alas...
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    I don't remember a red scare here. I was married in 1973, and she could get red and scary at times, but that was only one little flat in Edinburgh. Britain is fairly relaxed in the political sense, there have even been a couple of Communist MP's elected to Parliament. Reds under the bed were joked about, but not seriously feared, despite the odd spy scandal.
    Britain benefited indirectly from America's Red Scare, as Sam Wanamaker was exiled for the duration, and settled in London, where he set about recreating Shakespeare's Globe Theatre on it's original site in replica form.

    Shakespeare's Globe, Bankside, Southwark, London / Shakespeare's Globe
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    You might be referring to the Kim Philby spy incident.

    Harold Adrian Russell "Kim" Philby (1 January 1912 – 11 May 1988[1]) was a high-ranking member of British intelligence who worked as a double agent before defecting to the Soviet Union in 1963. He served as both an NKVD and KGB operative.[2]

    In 1963, Philby was revealed to be a member of the spy ring now known as the Cambridge Five, the other members of which were Donald Maclean, Guy Burgess, Anthony Blunt and, possibly, John Cairncross. Of the five, Philby is believed to have been most successful in providing secret information to the Soviet Union. His activities were moderated only by Joseph Stalin's fears that he was a Triple Agent providing Soviet intelligence to British authorities.[3] Philby was an Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE) from 1946 to 1965.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Philby

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Gen. Walker appears to be the godson of Joe McCarthy! Holy Toledo, that Sandhurst Exercise was apparently a dress rehearsal for a violent coup!

    And in the 1970's!

    Did this "hunting communists" in Britain actually occur?

    @Leo2, @Dangermouse

    I cannot excuse, but can almost understand the Red Scare here, so soon after the end of WWII.

    But not 20 years later!

    (I love documentaries on YouTube, but I don't take them all at face value.)
    TBH, Madeline, I never heard of it, and my mum, who was born in the mid-seventies, never did either. We all learnt about Philby, Burgess, and MacLean, and we were a part of the cold war, but were not scared of the Socialist ideology (parts of which were incorporated into our society anyway). We saw Russian dictatorship and expansion as something other than socialism (more akin to a form of Fascism). We are probably your closest allies (despite the claims of Israelis who have not sacrificed anything - certainly not one life for the USA,) but our national characteristics are really quite different. And as our Gallic friends say "Vive la difference".
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