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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    The Spanish Civil war really was a fascinating moment in history. Eventually it became a war between Europe's two superpowers to stop Spain from overthrowing government completely—a precedent neither would allow to succeed.

    George Orwell went there as a reporter, and ended up joining and fighting alongside the Spanish anarchists, and eventually the whole experience became the (non-fiction) book Homage to Catalonia. Essential Orwell.
    I think It is like a Petri dish of the most important reasons for all the war that follows.

    And not irrelevant to wars we are fighting now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post


    Viva, the Lincoln Brigade, Americans that fought Fascism.
    O, I knew Americans were there. Leftists from every Western nation showed up -- men and women. That alone makes the SCW fascinating.

    What nation could suffer a civil war today, and civilians of other nations would travel there on their own dime to fight?

    I doubt it would even occur to most of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    O, I knew Americans were there. Leftists from every Western nation showed up -- men and women. That alone makes the SCW fascinating.

    What nation could suffer a civil war today, and civilians of other nations would travel there on their own dime to fight?

    I doubt it would even occur to most of us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    What nation could suffer a civil war today, and civilians of other nations would travel there on their own dime to fight?
    Syria?

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    Erwan Jean François Castel, a 52 year old former French Army officer


    Guillaume Lenormand (front) and Mickael Takahashi, former Foreign Legion troops


    "Sergey", who only identified himself by first name, French citizen born to Russian parents in France, also former French military


    Russel Bentley, former US Army



    This ex-Paratrooper from Italy


    And this Russian emigrant ex-Bundeswehr soldier from Germany


    Not to mention this ex-FARC fighter from Colombia


    What have they in common? I'll tell you. All went to Donbass and joined the pro-Russian separatist forces there.

    "Texas" Bentley is my personal favorite, by far... Dude has even picked up the local lingo, referring to Ukrainians as Ukrops and such

    haha

    His story and other fascinating tales of foreign volunteers there can be found here: 'We are preventing a third world war': the foreigners fighting with Ukrainian rebels

    Also: A Serb, a Texan, and a Colombian Walk Into a War…

    Never knew the dude is also a pro-marijuana crusader lmao Wow...

    And by mid-2015, already over 100 German citizens were fighting for the separatists there: More than 100 Germans fighting for separatists in eastern Ukraine | News | DW.COM | 15.03.2015

    More than that there now.

    I'd be remiss not to mention foreigners on the other side. For example, an Austrian who fought for Ukraine (and been in Syria and other places too, before), who was recently arrested by Polish authorities after leaving Ukraine, suspected of war crimes: Fascinated by war - an Austrian in Donbass | Europe | DW.COM | 04.05.2017

    Or this white supremacist sniper who went to Ukraine to join the neo Nazi pro-Kiev Azov militia: Ukraine conflict: 'White power' warrior from Sweden - BBC News

    More about pro-Ukraine foreigners here: Meet the European Fighters Who Have Gone to War in Ukraine

    A former US Army Ranger of Ukrainian background was killed in Donbass in 2014, fighting as a volunteer for Kiev: The Only American Fighting for Ukraine Dies in Battle

    After Syria, this conflict probably the most foreign fighter involvement in the world today. Actually, probably more even than Syria, if you count all the tens of thousands of Russians who have gone there as "foreigners" And, God, I haven't even mentioned the fucking Serbs lol
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    I had no idea!

    See.....study the SCV, all else is made clear.
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    The Colombian guy, who goes by Alexey Castillo (I think his birth name is Alexis or something like that, I don't know, he Russified it, to fit in over there or whatever) actually referenced the Spanish Civil War, actually, in his video interview, when he first appeared in Donbass, way back in November 2014

    He said that volunteers from Latin America, including his native Colombia, fought alongside Russians in Spain then, and so, here he was now, too lol

    Interesting guy... Made quite a name for himself, as a sniper

    including in the ferocious battle for Donetsk Airport
    https://psb4ukr.natocdn.work/2016/09/yVmJ9tC-UCE.jpg

    I always thought he was just a mercenary, like, for example, most of the Italians, just fighting for money; but then, he went and married Katya, a local girl, last year

    They had a son a few months ago.

    I suppose he is staying for good, Donbass is his home now...

    He also speaks pretty fluent Russian now, I guess both Katya and his comrades in the militia have taught him enough, so that he is able to come give propaganda talks at local schools

    lol

    With Russell Bentley and "Apache", another French volunteer


    There are also volunteers from Spain itself there

    Many of whom I have heard in interviews say that they are returning the favor for all the Russians who fought in Spain back then.

    All kinds of people there...

    This guy, Rafi Jabar

    He was born in Afghanistan, his father was an officer in the pro-Communist government military, fought alongside Soviet troops, was killed in battle by the US-funded Islamist scum. After Red Army withdrew, Rafi and his mom and brother fled to Russia. He grew up or, at least, spent his formative years there. Now, he is among the most prominent Russian Muslim fighters in Donbass... He hates Wahhabis, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan; but he hates America most of all. You have no idea. I've seen his Facebook and his videos on YouTube... Fucking ISIS or fucking North Korea doesn't hate the US like this dude...

    And this lady sniper, from Serbia

    She is absolutely deadly. The Ukrainians hate her, because she seems to like shooting their troops in the... private regions, shall we say haha

    Her close... friend (their relationship is actually very unclear) and mentor, who brought her to Donbass in 2015, is another famous Serbian sniper in Donbass, a living legend of that conflict, a dude who once took on and wasted six Ukrainian snipers in battle, who were sent specifically to take him out.

    Dejan "Deki" Beric

    That name fucking terrifies the Ukrainians now haha Their generals have nightmares about this guy lmao More kills, he has, than your Chris Kyle. He is back in Serbia now, I hear, but he has also said he'd return "if I am ever needed there", like the Ukrops try to launch another offensive. Guy's a fucking killing machine... I understand when he was young, he fought in Kosovo, against the KLA, and they remember him very well there too...

    Meantime, the girl, who goes by "Bagira" (panther in Kipling's "Jungle Book", which is the Slavic world is widely assumed to be female, even though in the actual book it was, I know, male; and which is actually used as a nom du guerre by many women in Donbass, very popular it is; I understand there are like fifteen Bagiras fighting for the separatists, and another thirteen - for Ukraine hehe) is in command of a unit of local young men and women Deki had personally trained for last two years as snipers... Deadly twelve boys and girls, who he had taught all he knows...

    There is also another American there, aside from Mr. Bentley, dude who goes by "Storm", apparently from Illinois

    But he is a Russian-speaking immigrant, as I recall, originally from Donbass, returned to fight for his people; not a "bona fide" American. Former US Marine though. Hoorah! hehehe
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    There are mercenaries out of the US, but they are either poorly-disguised CIA (Iran Contra), or adjuncts to the U.S. military (Afghanistan).

    Neither one is regarded as a force for truth and justice, here. Both are suspected of some role in some pretty evil shit, like the massacres in Venezuela.

    So, Americans in Donbass could be merecenaries, but if they arrive and fight one at a time, it's unlikely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    There are mercenaries out of the US, but they are either poorly-disguised CIA (Iran Contra), or adjuncts to the U.S. military (Afghanistan).

    Neither one is regarded as a force for truth and justice, here. Both are suspected of some role in some pretty evil shit, like the massacres in Venezuela.

    So, Americans in Donbass could be merecenaries, but if they arrive and fight one at a time, it's unlikely.
    Well, Bentley is supposedly a Communist, for one. A Communist, from Texas. No joke
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Well, Bentley is supposedly a Communist, for one. A Communist, from Texas. No joke
    Texas has a shit state government. Doesn't surprise me they are turning out the occasional Communist.
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