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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Based on those criteria, the last one was pretty lousy too.
    Obama damaged America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Are we in a war or economic recession? If not, then how does Trump get ranked last?
    Poor leadership.

    Your two examples are the results of luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Are we in a war or economic recession? If not, then how does Trump get ranked last?
    A year ago, you would have suggested for these reasons:

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    The Die-Hard Republicans Who Say #NeverTrump - Bloomberg View
    This is well worth the read. I saw a poll that said that 47% of Republicans will not support Trump if he gets the nomination. This article shows that they understand the consequences. But we (I include myself in this) just can't bring ourselves to support Trump for the following reasons.

    Questions of character and judgment
    He's a racist and/or panders to racists.
    He's misogynistic.
    He lacks substance on policy.
    He's an unprincipled con man.
    He's an authoritarian.
    He shouldn't be trusted on foreign policy.
    He's a crypto-liberal.

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    Can someone list a detailed criteria to rank presidents in order of greatness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davocrat View Post
    Poor leadership.

    Your two examples are the results of luck.
    So if you lead well to mass immigration and suffer, you rank high.

    If you lead poorly and halt immigration and try to sort it's problems, you rank low.

    Ok, got it.

    Can you see how dumb these awards are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Are we in a war or economic recession? If not, then how does Trump get ranked last?
    Statesmanship. -10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartibartfast View Post
    Can someone list a detailed criteria to rank presidents in order of greatness?
    They are ranked on 10 different qualities by Historians and Presidential Scholars.

    The link has all the answers to your question:

    https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurv.../?page=overall
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    Here are the people that did the rankings:

    Survey Participants
    Ackerman, Kenneth
    Lawyer and Historian
    Anthony, Carl Sferrazza
    First Ladies Library
    Arnold, Peri
    University of Notre Dame
    Ayers, Edward
    University of Richmond
    Borneman, Walter R.
    Lawyer and Historian
    Brennan, Mary
    Texas State University
    Brinkley, Douglas
    Rice University
    Burton, Vernon
    Clemson University
    Calhoun, Charles
    East Carolina University
    Cannon, Lou
    Journalist and Biographer
    Clements, Kendrick
    University of South Carolina
    Clinton, Catherine
    The University of Texas at San Antonio
    Cordery, Stacy
    Iowa State University
    Cramer Brownell, Kathryn
    Purdue University
    Crapol, Edward
    The College of William & Mary
    Dallek, Robert
    Historian and Biographer
    Edwards, Laura
    Duke University
    Edwards, Lee
    The Heritage Foundation
    Egerton, Douglas
    Le Moyne College
    Farber, David
    The University of Kansas
    Fauntroy, Michael
    Howard University
    Felzenberg, Alvin
    Historian and Author
    Ferguson, Andrew
    Journalist and Author
    Fleming, Thomas
    Historian and Author
    Folsom, Burton
    Hillsdale College
    Gellman, Irwin
    Historian and Author
    Goodrich, Debra
    Historian and Author
    Gordon-Reed, Annette
    Harvard Law School
    Gormley, Ken
    Duquesne University
    Greenberg, Amy S.
    The Pennsylvania State University
    Greenberg, David
    Rutgers University
    Greene, J. Robert
    Cazenovia College
    Greenstein, Fred
    Princeton University
    Guelzo, Allen
    Gettysburg College
    Hamby, Alonzo
    Ohio University
    Hamilton, Nigel
    University of Massachusetts Boston
    Heclo, Hugh
    George Mason University
    Henriques, Peter
    George Mason University
    Hiltzik, Michael
    Journalist and Author
    Hoff, Joan
    Montana State University
    Holt, Michael F.
    University of Virginia
    Holzer, Harold
    Hunter College
    Hubbard, Charles
    Lincoln Memorial University
    Jackson, Maurice
    Georgetown University
    Jeansonne, Glen
    University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
    Kaufman, Robert
    Pepperdine University
    Kengor, Paul
    Grove City College
    Kennedy, David
    Stanford University
    Knott, Stephen
    U.S. Naval War College
    Madonna, G. Terry
    Franklin & Marshall College
    Mann, James
    Journalist and Author
    Maranto, Robert
    University of Arkansas
    Marszalek, John
    Mississippi State University
    McDougall, Walter
    University of Pennsylvania
    Medford, Edna
    Howard University
    Merry, Robert
    Journalist and Author
    Miroff, Bruce
    University at Albany, State University of New York
    Morris, Seymour Jr.
    Historian and Author
    Neuman, Johanna
    Historian and Journalist
    Newby-Alexander, Cassandra
    Norfolk State University
    O'Mara, Margaret
    University of Washington
    Painter, Nell Irvin
    Princeton University
    Pika, Joe
    University of Delaware
    Pious, Richard
    Barnard College
    Pitney, Jack
    Claremont McKenna College
    Randall, Willard Sterne
    Champlain College
    Renshon, Stanley
    CUNY
    Ritchie, Don
    Senate Historian - retired
    Roberts, Cokie
    Journalist and Biographer
    Roberts, Randy
    Purdue University
    Rockman, Bert
    Purdue University
    Sabato, Larry
    University of Virginia Center for Politics
    Seale, William
    White House Historical Association
    Sheldon, Garrett
    University of Virginia at Wise
    Shirley, Craig
    Historian and Author
    Sibley, Katherine
    Saint Joseph's University
    Simpson, Brooks
    Arizona State University
    Smith, Richard Norton
    Historian and Biographer
    Stuckey, Mary
    Georgia State University
    Symonds, Craig
    U.S. Naval Academy
    Thomas, Evan
    Journalist and Author
    Troy, Gil
    McGill University
    Troy, Tevi
    Historian and Author
    Warshaw, Shirley
    Gettysburg College
    Watson, Robert
    Lynn University
    Waugh, Joan
    University of California, Los Angeles
    White, Jonathan
    Christopher Newport University
    White, Ron
    The Huntington Library
    Wilentz, Sean
    Princeton University
    Wood, Gordon
    Brown University
    Woods, Randall
    University of Arkansas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    I would not have put Obama or Reagan in the Top 10, though I could not say who should be moved up, either. Putting Garfield or W.H. Harrison in the mix is not very fair, considering how short their respective tenures were (6 months and 1 month, respectively; and Garfield was injured for most of that time, having been shot 4 months into his term). I probably would not have put Nixon so low, though Watergate kind of doomed him to a low rank. Maybe I'd move up J. Adams, though his presidency was considerably more lackluster than his pre-Constitution days.
    I guess even for presidential politics experts, judgement over a Prinet's performance changes with time, and with the field of comparison.

    Last such survey hey did in 2014, at that time the ACA was still quite unpopular.
    It's popularity has risen since, along with the measurable effects it has on actual uninsured... don't forget, the mandate and the exchanges really only got fully implemented by 2014.

    And then look at he current attempt to politics that trump displays to the world and experts.. i'm pretty sure that gives - even to those experts - a much more positive light on Obama's approach, looking at it now, compared to back in 2014.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    If you need to ask that question..

    Incompetent, changes mind from day to day, untrustworthy, no leadership skills, racist, bigot, divisive, corrupt, lack ethics, intellectually lazy, doesn't base decisions on facts, narcissistic, sleazy, serial liar, and the list goes on and on.

    What more do you want? Are these qualities that make a president great? Have we ever seen such a poor example of a president?
    Yes indeed, not only the worst President in history by far, just a piss-poor example of a person in general!

    And look how much the GOP has come to fit the "Bizarroland" title: they have a porn star first lady, they are now against the NFL, the cries of "Lock Her UP!" are akin to a lone blackbird cawing in the middle of the night.

    They elected an "elitist" with gold leaf everything, and apparently are "okay" with Russia interfering in our election...

    Thx

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