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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    I would not have put Obama or Reagan in the Top 10, though I could not say who should be moved up, either. Putting Garfield or W.H. Harrison in the mix is not very fair, considering how short their respective tenures were (6 months and 1 month, respectively; and Garfield was injured for most of that time, having been shot 4 months into his term). I probably would not have put Nixon so low, though Watergate kind of doomed him to a low rank. Maybe I'd move up J. Adams, though his presidency was considerably more lackluster than his pre-Constitution days.
    Yes! I also disagree. Reagan and Nixon deserve as low ranks as Buchanan, IMO. A. Jackson was on a mission to genocide Native Americans living in the Southeast, mainly Seminoles. Not during his presidency, but still.

    An evil fuckwhit.

    Any president responsible for millions of avoidable American deaths deserves to be ranked lowest. Which is clearly not how these political scientists view matters. Trump does SAY dreadful things, but he hasn't caused the deaths of millions of people, let alone Americans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    It is on the front page of the link I posted:

    Individual Leadership Characteristics
    Public Persuasion
    Crisis Leadership
    Economic Management
    Moral Authority
    International Relations
    Administrative Skills
    Relations with Congress
    Vision / Setting an Agenda
    Pursued Equal Justice For All
    Performance Within Context of Times
    C-SPAN uses historians, and their factors are slightly different, but they track the NYT's results, more or less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Are we in a war or economic recession? If not, then how does Trump get ranked last?
    The article doesn't say. I'd rank him lowest for raising the specter of nuclear war closer, but I don't

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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post

    Republicans are bad!!
    So you can't refute my comment? Just a silly response?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post

    Trump does SAY dreadful things, but he hasn't caused the deaths of millions of people, let alone Americans.
    Not yet... If we have a national crisis where cool heads need to prevail we are fucked.

    He will be responsible for hundreds of innocent deaths in the future if he backslides on his commitment to do something about gun violence. And I predict he will backslide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post

    Republicans are bad!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post


    Mencken said it best:

    In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican.
    H. L. Mencken

    Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/h_l_mencken_161695

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    "I DO respect the office, BUT NOT THAT POS!!!"

    -Wingers during the Obama years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    The article doesn't say. I'd rank him lowest for raising the specter of nuclear war closer, but I don't
    Being as a president has such limited powers, his office is mostly about perception. He comes across as a complete dumbass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoVsMatrix View Post
    I guess even for presidential politics experts, judgement over a Prinet's performance changes with time, and with the field of comparison.

    Last such survey hey did in 2014, at that time the ACA was still quite unpopular.
    It's popularity has risen since, along with the measurable effects it has on actual uninsured... don't forget, the mandate and the exchanges really only got fully implemented by 2014.

    And then look at he current attempt to politics that trump displays to the world and experts.. i'm pretty sure that gives - even to those experts - a much more positive light on Obama's approach, looking at it now, compared to back in 2014.
    Who or what is a "Prinet"?

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