Thread: Black african civilization prior to european colonalization and racist stereotypes

[quote name='Elder of Zion' date='11 June 2010 - 07:06 PM' timestamp='1276308364' post='160341']

Devil, I'd punch you in the mouth for calling me an anti-Semite if you were a man. You must be a Nazi yourself.

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Now establishing that Devil is indeed a man, how do you go about punching him in the mouth on the internet ?



Is there a F key for that ?

[quote name='Elder of Zion' date='11 June 2010 - 09:13 PM' timestamp='1276305234' post='160329']

Here's what I mean, pretty much mud castles don't you think? Is this the best they can do?



http://www.wayfaring...vore_mosque.jpg



You're just making excuses gabe. What they got over there is goats and bald women and mud castles.

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Hmmmm Ever hear of the Pyramids...........the Sphinx..........Ever hear of Carthage, seems Rome had to tear down their cities which were not mud huts. Also you forget that Diamonds, gold, and Ivory: you know that shiny stuff you wear all over your body and invest in and put into your safety deposit boxes, pretty much comes from Africa.

[quote name='Elder of Zion' date='11 June 2010 - 01:38 PM' timestamp='1276277904' post='160217']

Persians are savages just like they are portrayed in that movie 300. Cool flick by the way. People try to be nice but let's face it. African civilization has never amounted to much. Have you ever seen the Ethiopians in Israel? They are not an asset to Israel. And come on what is Africa's greatest architectural achievement? If you've ever seen them they look pretty much like big mud castles. All of Africa hasn't produced a fraction of the scientists that the Jewish people have. I am sorry to be blunt but that's the way I am.

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Your ignorance of history is appalling. Persians are savages eh........Funny when Cyrus the Great let the Jews out of bondage from the Babylonians and return to their lands. Allof Israel thought Cyrus was the Messiah. Funny how these Savages brought the world ...Algaebra, astronomy, navigation, and cunniform writing. Africa may not have some of the top scientists in the world but they do have the some of the top archeologists in the world. Oh by the way lets not forget law with justice.



Thats great you are patriotic for your country. Nothing wrong with that! But calling people Nazis just because they can prove you wrong with facts and a dose of reality, or that they disagree with you only goes to show that you are equal in mentality as the Nazis.



I am just as patriotic for my country and I think my country is the Shit......the real billy-bad-ass of the world. Guess what....< looks left....then looks right........pssssst........We Are!!!!!!!!!!! I have served my country.........overseas and never once did I ever hear any Israeli Soldier who was recieving our training talk the shit you do.

Midwest, the Egyptians and the Carthaginians were North Africans and predominately Caucasian. I am talking about black, sub-Saharan Africans - who haven&#39;t achieved s*** I&#39;m afraid. I wish this wasn&#39;t the case but we have to grow up and accept the facts.



Persians have achieved a little, but that was a long time ago. Now they seem preoccupied with "honor" killing and plotting nuclear war.



I wish all groups could be as successful as my ethnic group, but that won&#39;t happen. You can blame DNA or backward patriarchal gay-hating superstitious cultures or both.

Sure black slaves were mistreated, but the slave holders wanted to make a profit and dead slaves meant no profit. Their suffering shouldn&#39;t be ignored - but it was no Holocaust.



Here&#39;s a quote from Michael Medved about the slave trade: By definition, the crime of genocide requires the deliberate slaughter of a specific group of people; slavers invariably preferred oppressing and exploiting live Africans rather than murdering them en masse. Here, the popular, facile comparisons between slavery and the Holocaust quickly break down: the Nazis occasionally benefited from the slave labor of their victims, but the ultimate purpose of facilities like Auschwitz involved mass death, not profit or productivity. For slave owners and slave dealers in the New World, however, death of your human property cost you money, just as the death of your domestic animals would cause financial damage. And as with their horses and cows, slave owners took pride and care in breeding as many new slaves as possible. Rather than eliminating the slave population, profit-oriented masters wanted to produce as many new, young slaves as they could. This hardly represents a compassionate or decent way to treat your fellow human beings, but it does amount to the very opposite of genocide. As David Brion Davis reports, slave holders in North America developed formidable expertise in keeping their “bondsmen” alive and healthy enough to produce abundant offspring. The British colonists took pride in slaves who “developed an almost unique and rapid rate of population growth, freeing the later United States from a need for further African imports.”



Black people in the U.S. are lucky that they were brought to America! The places they come from are real hell holes.



another Medved quote: THERE IS NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT TODAY’S AFRICAN-AMERICANS WOULD BE BETTER OFF IF THEIR ANCESTORS HAD REMAINED BEHIND IN AFRICA. The idea of reparations rests on the notion of making up to the descendants of slaves for the incalculable damage done to their family status and welfare by the enslavement of generations of their ancestors. In theory, reparationists want society to repair the wrongs of the past by putting today’s African-Americans into the sort of situation they would have enjoyed if their forebears hadn’t been kidnapped, sold and transported across the ocean. Unfortunately, to bring American blacks in line with their cousins who the slave-traders left behind in Africa would require a drastic reduction in their wealth, living standards, and economic and political opportunities. No honest observer can deny or dismiss this nation’s long record of racism and injustice, but it’s also obvious that Americans of African descent enjoy vastly greater wealth and human rights of every variety than the citizens of any nation of the Mother Continent. If we sought to erase the impact of slavery on specific black families, we would need to obliterate the spectacular economic progress made by those families (and by US citizens in general) over the last 100 years. In view of the last century of history in Nigeria or Ivory Coast or Sierra Leone or Zimbabwe, could any African American say with confidence that he or she would have fared better had some distant ancestor not been enslaved? Of course, those who seek reparations would also cite the devastating impact of Western colonialism in stunting African progress, but the United States played virtually no role in the colonization of the continent. The British, French, Italians, Portuguese, Germans and others all established brutal colonial rule in Africa; tiny Belgium became a particularly oppressive and bloodthirsty colonial power in the Congo. The United States, on the other hand, sponsored only one long-term venture on the African continent: the colony of Liberia, an independent nation set up as a haven for liberated American slaves who wanted to go “home.” The fact that so few availed themselves of the opportunity, or heeded the back-to-African exhortations of turn- of-the-century Black Nationalist Marcus Garvey, reflects the reality that descendants of slaves understood they were better off remaining in the United States, for all its faults.



So let&#39;s stop making excuses for Moslems, Africans, Hispanics, etc. They are failures. Maybe in the future they will do better. Telling lies won&#39;t help them the truth might. Jews suffered through a real Holocaust, the worst suffering in human history, and we are back on top. We&#39;ve got the Harvard degrees and corner offices and penthouses and Nobel prizes to prove it.

The Jews ARE successful, indeed. I will admit that. Many here won&#39;t. But lets give credit where credit is due. It is a small nation surrounded by enemies bent on it&#39;s destruction. AND IT HAS SURVIVED AND PROSPERED for decades.

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The Jews ARE successful, indeed. I will admit that. Many here won&#39;t. But lets give credit where credit is due. It is a small nation surrounded by enemies bent on it&#39;s destruction. AND IT HAS SURVIVED AND PROSPERED for decades.

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Are you talking about Manhattan or Los Angeles?

[quote name=&#39;Davocrat&#39; date=&#39;13 June 2010 - 07:54 PM&#39; timestamp=&#39;1276480459&#39; post=&#39;160597&#39;]

Are you talking about Manhattan or Los Angeles?

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HUH?

[quote name=&#39;Elder of Zion&#39; date=&#39;13 June 2010 - 06:14 PM&#39; timestamp=&#39;1276445673&#39; post=&#39;160518&#39;]Sure black slaves were mistreated, but the slave holders wanted to make a profit and dead slaves meant no profit. Their suffering shouldn&#39;t be ignored - but it was no Holocaust.[/quote]



Lesson one in How to Spot a Dogmatist - they will typically start arguing against arguments that nobody has made.

Purple = very smart



Blue = smart



Yellow = okay



Orange = dumb



Red = Very dumb