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    line between who’s a good immigrant and bad immigrant is starting to fade-

    This is from a blog that I read frequently... He is GOOD at
    writing and ALWAYS provides sources to PROVE what he is saying.

    He is also ALWAYS careful NOT to blame the refugees and often points
    out that they are the ones being screwed over right now.

    He came to Sweden as a refugee himself, so, this is a area he knows and
    understands well.

    My point of posting this blog piece is that he makes a GOOD point.. If people are pushed to
    breaking point, which I believe is happening in Sweden and Germany.. due to
    the OVER accepting of ANYBODY who sets foot on our soil.

    People will start to take the law into their OWN hands.. The dividing line between who’s a good immigrant and bad immigrant is starting to fade, and when it explodes the fire doesn’t care about who’s who – It just wants to hurt any person it can find.



    Do not think that you can treat the Swedish people like shit forever. The anger in Sweden has been boiling under the surface for a very long time, so much it’s turned people blind. The dividing line between who’s a good immigrant and bad immigrant is starting to fade, and when it explodes the fire doesn’t care about who’s who – It just wants to hurt any person it can find.

    https://acidmuncher.wordpress.com/20...tack-children/

    A few months ago a woman was brutally gangraped outdoors in Södermalm, Stockholm. The rape lasted for hours. She cried while they repeatedly punched her in the face. She begged them to stop while they strangled her. She later told the media it felt like she was going to die.

    It was Marockan street “children” who did this. And the police in Stockholm has previously come out and said that they can’t handle doing their job because those gangs are taking up so much resources. They’re creating so much chaos that the police don’t have time to investigate other crimes, and the policeman interviewed even said that he doesn’t know a single police who would allow his children to visit the train station in Stockholm.

    What’s interesting about the Marockan street gangs is that they often get mixed up with asylum seeking children, when actually they aren’t applying for asylum. And since they didn’t flee war or persecution, they wouldn’t be eligible for it either. They’re illegals who don’t want contact with the authorities. When they get help from youth homes, they end up running away. They essentially want to live as criminals. And Sweden can’t deport them, partly because their own country doesn’t want to accept them, and partly because they don’t have any ID.

    What ended up happening with the rape case mentioned above is that the perpetrators didn’t even get 1 year each in prison, because they lied about their age. In Sweden they said they were under 18, but in other countries they had said they were above 18 – according to Interpol they could have been as old as 30. And the one who was the most aggressive during the rape, and pushed the most for it to happen, managed to avoid punishment altogether. Because he didn’t show up to prison.

    And after all this our Interior Minister has the following to say: “We (the government) want to create more room in youth homes to be able to lock up all of these street children, so they don’t run away and stay on the street, where they are a danger to both themselves and others. It’s irresponsible to let these children roam in these environments where they face the risk of being trafficked or beaten up.”

    So what do you think is going to happen? We’re living in a country where it’s open for anyone to waltz in without a citizenship, rape and rob as much as you want, and then escape punishment because you can’t be bothered to walk yourself to prison. And on top of this, both politicians and the head of police are gonna feel sorry for you when you commit crimes against the country’s legal citizens.

    People taking the law into their own hands isn’t the biggest problem here. It’s that not even those who are within the system are maintaining law and order.

    Sweden’s handling of criminal immigrants is shameful and bears no equivalent in the rest of the world. This is a country where they hand out asylum even when the person has already committed rape. Immigrants who committ crimes are most often not deported, because it isn’t mandatory by Swedish law, even though nearly half of all long-term prisoners don’t even have a Swedish citizenship.

    When authorities, courts and politicians aren’t maintaining law and order – Why would you expect ordinary citizens to?





    here is Google translate... so, you can check his resources yourself.

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    here is a GOOD article

    Polisens larm: ?Vi går på knäna nu? - Nyheter | SVT.se

    Police are no longer able to do his job. A strong contributing factor: The criminal young men in and around Stockholm Central occupying large resources from an already strained Corps.

    The question is mined land within the police, but the problem with the young Moroccan men dwelling in central Stockholm is not unfamiliar. Only yesterday was informed that Morocco now for political discussions with Interior Minister Anders Ygeman that the whole thing is a "common problem" and that they "must find ways to identify these people."

    Estimates claim that hundreds of young men from Morocco and other countries in North Africa is in Sweden right now. And the group is a problem for the police and other authorities.
    "They steal stuff everywhere"

    Swedish Television News has been in contact with a police officer who wants to remain anonymous but who among other things has worked with the groups of guys moving in and around Stockholm.
    and this one-
    Dömd för gruppvåldtäkt ? på rymmen | Krim | Nyheter | Aftonbladet

    The person of the right was considered to have been the most proactive and exerted most of the violence against the woman was a young man who said he was born in 1999, and 16 years at the deed.

    Both his semen blood could be secured on the victim.

    District court and court of appeal noted that he would be convicted of aggravated rape, and that the penalty for the offense he committed the equivalent of four and a half years in prison - if he were an adult.

    But then he said to be 16 years old, and his identity has not been established - he comes from a country in North Africa and living as street children in Stockholm - stayed the sentence at nine months' youth custody.
    Transferred to home in Småland

    The boy was taken to a LVU home (Act on care of young people) in Småland in anticipation of his judgment would become final and he would start serving his sentence in a slightly tighter home, known as the LSU-home (Act on youth custody ).

    When sentenced to juvenile detention is not applied tvåtredjedelsfrigivning, and the boy would then locked up the front in June this year.

    But that did not happen.
    Disappeared without a trace
    Anses för ung ? frias från gruppvåldtäkten | Nyheter | Expressen

    Considered too young - freed of gang rape

    Three unaccompanied North African youths subjected the young woman for a brutal gang rape.

    One of the young men were acquitted because the court of appeal considers that he may be under 15 years.

    The other two young people getting away with six and nine months' youth custody - as the courts could only guess how young they are.

    When young fingerprints were sent to Interpol got hits in a dozen different aliases with ages between 13 and 33 years.
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    Liberalism run a muck.

    It's truly sad that these sick minded individuals are in charge of Sweden's government.

    This same sick ideology will destroy this Country as well if not stopped.

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    I'll just be glad the day the idiots out there stop using the words "immigrant" and "refugee" interchangeably. They don't mean the same thing.

    An immigrant is someone who moves from A to B, for whatever reason.

    A refugee is someone who is genuinely looking for protection from a threat to their life (a.k.a. asylum seeker).

    Most of the people we're seeing hitting Europe lately are immigrants, inc. economic migrants.

    I have no problem whatsoever temporarily housing refugees, but I'll be damned if I expect Europe to roll over and change its society to permanently accommodate immigrants, and their eventual offspring. We don't have the capacity for it, in any metric you want to measure capacity by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinder View Post
    I'll just be glad the day the idiots out there stop using the words "immigrant" and "refugee" interchangeably. They don't mean the same thing.

    An immigrant is someone who moves from A to B, for whatever reason.

    A refugee is someone who is genuinely looking for protection from a threat to their life (a.k.a. asylum seeker).

    Most of the people we're seeing hitting Europe lately are immigrants, inc. economic migrants.

    I have no problem whatsoever temporarily housing refugees, but I'll be damned if I expect Europe to roll over and change its society to permanently accommodate immigrants, and their eventual offspring. We don't have the capacity for it, in any metric you want to measure capacity by.

    VERY well said. I agree.. people NEED to understand, there is a HUGE difference
    between the 2.

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    Bad immigrant..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    Liberalism run a muck.

    It's truly sad that these sick minded individuals are in charge of Sweden's government.

    This same sick ideology will destroy this Country as well if not stopped.

    John, I love ya to death.... .. but, I have to completely disagree with you.

    The mentality in Europe is just fucking INSANE... and in NO WAY does the USA have the
    same mentality, nor does it have the same problems.

    You will have to point me to actual areas in the USA where it LITERALLY looks
    like you have walked into a TOTALLY different country.
    That is what we have HERE. Areas that are ONLY MUSLIM.

    Muslims in the USA are NOT even in the same BALLPARK as in Europe..
    the USA is VERY GOOD at weeding out people who have less than honorable
    reasons to want to be in the USA.

    I am a FULL supporter of multiculturalism... what Europe is doing is NOT that... BY A LONG SHOT!!!

    what Europe is doing is creating a PARALLEL Society along next to the NATIVE societies
    that have been here HUNDREDS of years.

    we are NOT bringing in Latin/ South Americans... or Asians from China or Japan..
    we are ONLY bringing in North Africans and Mid Eastern people MOST who are Muslim.

    and even still.. the USA has been doing this for MANY MANY years, and KNOWS how
    to integrate different cultures... Sweden is NOT good at this.

    and fact is... there is just NO WAY that it is good to do this... it is pushing people
    to EXTREMISM and that is NEVER a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrmike View Post
    Bad immigrant..?


    I have actually used that line.

    No.. I'm NOT joking... hahahahahaha...
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    Good immigrant Legal, they respected the nation to follow the laws when they entered the nation.

    Bad immigrant Illegal, they showed no respect for the nation when they entered the nation, and they did nothing but spit into the face of legal immigrants.


    Illegal immigrants are not bad people. the way they entered the nation was a criminal action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Good immigrant Legal, they respected the nation to follow the laws when they entered the nation.

    Bad immigrant Illegal, they showed no respect for the nation when they entered the nation, and they did nothing but spit into the face of legal immigrants.


    Illegal immigrants are not bad people. the way they entered the nation was a criminal action.
    The Irish immigrants/refugees were detested here for those very reasons, but they eventually managed to mingle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justagurlinseattle View Post
    John, I love ya to death.... .. but, I have to completely disagree with you.

    The mentality in Europe is just fucking INSANE... and in NO WAY does the USA have the
    same mentality, nor does it have the same problems.

    You will have to point me to actual areas in the USA where it LITERALLY looks
    like you have walked into a TOTALLY different country.
    That is what we have HERE. Areas that are ONLY MUSLIM.

    Muslims in the USA are NOT even in the same BALLPARK as in Europe..
    the USA is VERY GOOD at weeding out people who have less than honorable
    reasons to want to be in the USA.

    I am a FULL supporter of multiculturalism... what Europe is doing is NOT that... BY A LONG SHOT!!!

    what Europe is doing is creating a PARALLEL Society along next to the NATIVE societies
    that have been here HUNDREDS of years.

    we are NOT bringing in Latin/ South Americans... or Asians from China or Japan..
    we are ONLY bringing in North Africans and Mid Eastern people MOST who are Muslim.

    and even still.. the USA has been doing this for MANY MANY years, and KNOWS how
    to integrate different cultures... Sweden is NOT good at this.

    and fact is... there is just NO WAY that it is good to do this... it is pushing people
    to EXTREMISM and that is NEVER a good thing.
    I'm sorry that the consequences of our past and present policies have placed such a hardship on your and some of my ancestor's country. I doubt we will ever learn those lessons though.
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