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    Obama ranked as 12th best President

    Barack Obama has been whisked to a very good table at the club of former presidents, according to a C-SPAN survey of 91 presidential historians published on Friday. Obama’s 12th-place ranking only a month after leaving office is the best for any president since Ronald Reagan, who ranks ninth in the new survey. The list updates previous C-SPAN surveys compiled in 2009 and 2000.Historians gave Obama high marks for pursuing equality, managing the economy, public persuasion and “moral authority.” On the other hand, he was judged to have been below-average in handling international relations. Overall, he placed ahead of such generally well-regarded chief executives as James Monroe and James Polk.
    History’s view of the best and worst presidents was unchanged since 2009. The top spot once again went to Abraham Lincoln — the quintessential self-made man who saved the Union, emancipated the slaves, and launched the Transcontinental Railroad. He ranked no lower than fourth in all ten of the criteria by which presidents were judged. He finished first in crisis leadership, administrative skill, vision setting, and pursuit of equal justice; second in economic management, moral authority, and “performance within the context of the times”; third in public persuasion and international relations; and fourth in working with Congress.
    Lincoln was followed by George Washington, with the two Roosevelts — Franklin and Theodore — in third and fourth place. The bottom spots went to the men who served just before and just after Lincoln: James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson.
    “Once again the Big Three are Lincoln, Washington and FDR — as it should be,” said one of the shepherds of the survey, Douglas Brinkley of Rice University in Houston. “That Obama came in at number 12 his first time out is quite impressive,” Brinkley added.
    Best, Worst Presidents: C-SPAN Survey Has Barack Obama at 12 | Time.com

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    For me Obama is the best President I have ever seen but to be honest 12th place in history is indeed impressive. We only have our own timeframe to judge from unless we are into historic presidential history as the experts are. It will be interesting to see if that ranking changes with time and whether Obama moves up or down from there. Interesting post. Thanks.

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    What kind of hack historian ranks a president's place in history a month after he leaves office?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    What kind of hack historian ranks a president's place in history a month after he leaves office?
    They have been ranking him since at least 2010.

    They had him at #15 back then.

    Profs rank Obama 15th best president - POLITICO

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    Is that the SAME Obama that was awarded the Nobel Peace prize for doing...um...NOTHING?

    Yep - same credibility issue. Obama's only accomplishment was unseating Carter as the worst President in my lifetime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    They have been ranking him since at least 2010.

    They had him at #15 back then.

    Profs rank Obama 15th best president - POLITICO
    You can't credibly rate a president's place in history until at least a couple of decades after they leave office. Harry Truman was incredibly unpopular at the end of his presidential term. But today he ranks fairly well among presidents. Maybe liberals get all gushy inside for Obama because he went on Ellen's show. But how does his place in history look if, say, Iran gets a nuke right after the Iran Deal expires?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    What kind of hack historian ranks a president's place in history a month after he leaves office?
    Liberal hacks...the same idiots that want revenge because they did not get what they felt they were entitled to...

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    91 historians ranked the presidents and Obama came in 12th. Very impressive!.

    https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurv.../?page=overall

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    You can't credibly rate a president's place in history until at least a couple of decades after they leave office. Harry Truman was incredibly unpopular at the end of his presidential term. But today he ranks fairly well among presidents. Maybe liberals get all gushy inside for Obama because he went on Ellen's show. But how does his place in history look if, say, Iran gets a nuke right after the Iran Deal expires?
    He will be given a higher ranking. Europe goes Islamic ..an even higher ranking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne View Post
    91 historians ranked the presidents and Obama came in 12th. Very impressive!.

    https://www.c-span.org/presidentsurv.../?page=overall

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    Don't know what criteria they go by. So he is ranked 12, what does that mean for us and the world? zero!

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