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    But all those people are blaming the wrong people, orgs, laws and policies. Stopping foreign aid won't help them.
    True, but as I said desperate people do desperate things. We are having more and more issues that are getting worse. It could lead to revolt and a demand for cutbacks. If some of the poor lose healthcare or have sick kids that cant get help they will be out in the streets.
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    I guess I can see a distinction between humanitarian aid and foreign aid. The foreign aid in some cases is very questionable IMO.

    Of more significance both politically and economically, again IMO, is the number and size of foreign military bases. In the current technological environment is it really needed? Also, are the number of military base within the US needed. Wouldn't fewer, larger bases be more efficient?

    I would guess that a reduction in the number of overseas bases might be a reduction of some personnel's empires and for sure the closing of a US base is a political bomb, but there are significant dollars involved here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNG View Post
    I guess I can see a distinction between humanitarian aid and foreign aid. The foreign aid in some cases is very questionable IMO.

    Of more significance both politically and economically, again IMO, is the number and size of foreign military bases. In the current technological environment is it really needed? Also, are the number of military base within the US needed. Wouldn't fewer, larger bases be more efficient?

    I would guess that a reduction in the number of overseas bases might be a reduction of some personnel's empires and for sure the closing of a US base is a political bomb, but there are significant dollars involved here.
    A lot of those things are damned if you do and damned if you don't kind of things. Majority of people claim they want military bases closed overseas and also some here in the US. UNTIL its affects them. Then they scream and yell and carry on.
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    Even counting emergency foreign aid the US doesn't spend that much especially not as a percentage our income.

    The US donated the most funds (net) in foreign aid last year at $32bn. But when looking at the percentage of the country’s national income given to foreign aid, the US contribution is less impressive. It spent 0.19% of its national income, which is the same percentage as Portugal and Japan.

    Out of the DAC countries, Sweden was the most generous – it was the first to meet the 0.7% target in 1974 – donating 1.1% of its GNI to foreign aid, which works out at about $6.2bn. Next came Luxembourg, at 1.07%, then Norway at 0.99% and Denmark at 0.85%. The UK was fifth, higher than Germany at 0.41%, France at 0.36% and Switzerland at 0.49%. In total the UK spent $19bn on foreign aid last year, compared to $16bn from Germany and $10bn from France.
    https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...-most-generous
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Even counting emergency foreign aid the US doesn't spend that much especially not as a percentage our income.



    https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...-most-generous

    and.. we need to cut that by 50%. That or start taxing the ones who dont pay a red cent into that federal income tax for their fair share of supporting the rest of the world.

    actually i am all for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    and.. we need to cut that by 50%. That or start taxing the ones who dont pay a red cent into that federal income tax for their fair share of supporting the rest of the world.

    actually i am all for that.
    Um...yeah. About that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    I cannot argue with that, but the answer is not to stop humanitarian aid for the rest of the world.
    Has the Trump administration ever suggested they are going to stop all humanitarian aid for the rest of the world??

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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Has the Trump administration ever suggested they are going to stop all humanitarian aid for the rest of the world??
    i think what he is asking is that the other countries live up to their share, of which they have been welshing on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    I hear you, but I do hear some saying we should at least stop it for awhile. Several Native American tribes along with some in Flint and other areas are demanding we stop spending money overseas until the US has clean water for its children. I think as these problems are seen to be getting worse, more are actually thinking we need to spend more here. The cry will become bigger as the life expectancy goes down more here.
    That was why many were marching today. They were demanding clean air and water. The first thing Trump did was OK the Canadian pipeline over our largest Auafier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    I cannot argue with that, but the answer is not to stop humanitarian aid for the rest of the world.
    Why not?

    Clinton ignored Rwanda and how did that affect us?

    It didn't.

    He didn't ignore Somalia and how did that affect us?

    Very badly.
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