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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    The ideology is still there.
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    Well, maybe. But I think there will be a next wave. There is no peace, whole cities have been flattened, the population is scattered all over the globe.

    Lots to be angry about.
    If they are reduced to a low level insurgency group that no longer controls any territory, that is a victory, to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Lets see.. we could just let them expand.. your choice. Pay now or Pay later..
    So whack a mole with the most expensive military in the world. Good call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    HITH do we "extinguish ISIS"? Are we planning to invade every Arab nation? Are we now at war?

    I'm confused.
    don't be silly. All we have to do is call them names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryPorter View Post
    So whack a mole with the most expensive military in the world. Good call.
    No, do thinks like make the Kurds OUR allies instead of Assad's... ... Not leave Iraqis in a lurch. you know.. not lead from Behind.. by doing that all obama ever saw was Putin's asshole which he kissed up until 3 weeks before he left office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    HITH do we "extinguish ISIS"? Are we planning to invade every Arab nation? Are we now at war?

    I'm confused.
    The same way we eliminated Nazi Germany.

    Yes - there are still Nazis around. But we destroyed their cities and bases of command so they have no real power anymore.

    We should do the same to ISIS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    The same way we eliminated Nazi Germany.[/Uqote]

    You did not eliminate us.
    Yes the allies did.

    Nazi Germany is no more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    No, it will just dissolve into other groups. I think the important thing is to encourage secular middle eastern nations to fight them and make sure they don't hold any land, so it's harder for them to have a central base of operations.

    They want the caliphate, they want world domination, and believe martyrdom is the way to paradise. They won't stop until all infidels are converted or dead.

    We have to win the battle of ideas, that's how we eliminate ISIS.
    I agree with letting others fight them, especially those they are killing, far more than they are killing Americans or anyone else in the world, but we have seen how well a "bring 'em on" type challenge has worked in the past to discourage people whose culture is NOT to turn the other cheek and NOT just to risk potential desk, but seek it. Trump in all his bragging about what he will do (still campaigning even after becoming President) to protect America has essentially laid out a challenge for those who will work hard to defy Donald Trump's vanity, so Trump has in many ways not made America safer, but made it less safe in that regard and I am not the only person to say so.

    Instead of trying to bar Muslims from any countries, I would welcome and try to accommodate as many as we could, after the already in place vetting system, those who are refugees from war torn nations. I would make a point that those people are here to escape those that insist in continued violence and those who seem to thing "conversion" to their form of Islam via killing and violence and threats of death, are here to escape forced religion as much as the violence. I would remind Muslims the greatest threat to them so far, is not foreign invaders (although the invasion of Iraq gave them lots of mileage to blame the West), but IS and ask them if they think there is anything genuine about "believing" if one only "believes" to escape death, not by God's or Allah's hands, but by human hands and humans who think violence will beget them adherence that is lasting and without need for continued oppression to maintain it. At some point the much larger populations of Muslims will tire of the violence and those that are trying to force their fundamentalism on everyone through violence and they will turn very swiftly and decisively on IS.

    I have no idea if that is Donald Trump's plan, but he seems to think buying weapons of destruction and spending enormous amount of money on the military (Isn't that what dictators do?) is better than not pissing people off and effectively taunting them to attack us. We have already seen the "successes" what more than a decade fighting a war with conventional warfare and weapons vs. guerrilla warfare, have resulted in and why Trump could use fear mongering as part of what got him elected, even though any American has a much greater chance of being killed by a non-Muslim American than a foreign Muslim member of IS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    HITH do we "extinguish ISIS"? Are we planning to invade every Arab nation? Are we now at war?

    I'm confused.
    The CIA have stopped funding them - that should help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    No, do thinks like make the Kurds OUR allies instead of Assad's... ... Not leave Iraqis in a lurch. you know.. not lead from Behind.. by doing that all obama ever saw was Putin's asshole which he kissed up until 3 weeks before he left office.
    So WTF has this not worked since 1946?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    The same way we eliminated Nazi Germany.

    Yes - there are still Nazis around. But we destroyed their cities and bases of command so they have no real power anymore.

    We should do the same to ISIS.
    ISIS will just migrate, hide and regroup.

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