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    Far too many people in the West confuse fanatical extremists with Islam, and don't realise that the divisions within the religion are as sharp as those in Christianity in the time of the Hundred Years War. They therefore charge around roaring and robbing and create more and more sympathisers with 'terrorism'. They are also deeply unaware of the role of west in defeating progressive forces in the area and pushing people back into the mosque Until we can educate our own nutters, I think that the chance of completely defeating ISIS are very slim indeed. Best, however difficult, to get out of the Middle East altogether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    ISIS will just migrate, hide and regroup.

    They were well paid - $600,000 per year - many have left, gone home - Syria is offering all who have not committed terrible crimes, amnesty - None of these groups lives on air - once the funding stops so will they - Saudi is still a main funder as is Israel - Russia has given Qatar an Oil company so they have backed off - and the West, we have been giving them everything and factions of the US are still being troublesome - Turkey is mmmm in trouble on all sides because it plays all sides but is still playing games -

    Libya was the worst disaster - it is now bandit country with Clinton's arms flowing through it, into Africa as Africans flow out - There s an easy way to find peace but because every one wants a piece there will be none And do not presume that we are on the right side of this war =we are not - we never are
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy View Post
    Yes the allies did.

    Nazi Germany is no more.
    Where is ISIS's capital and where is its ONE and ONLY leader in a bunker in that capital???
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    The answer to the question is....not in Trump's Presidency or even his life-time.


    It's like the Dubya term "War on Terror"....now in its 16th year. You can't "win" a "war" over terrorism, at least by military means.

    Ask the British about Ireland.


    Trump's grandiose but bullshit promise of "I'll extinquish ISIS" is a lie...flat-out. ISIS will still exist even if Trump wins re-election and doesn't leave office until Jan. 2025.

    Naturally he, his spox, and his apologists will then FLIP to the talking point "Well, they are SERIOUSLY 'degraded'" or "on the run".
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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGecko View Post
    Where is ISIS's capital and where is its ONE and ONLY leader in a bunker in that capital???
    Raqqa.

    Although, I don't think the ISIS LEADERS live there. They are all safely secured in bunkers.

    Take Raqqa, Mosul, and other cites, and they have less money, it is more difficult to move, their weapon stashes are seized, and, it will make it harder for them to carry their slave girls into other areas, as they flee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by libertariat720 View Post
    No, it will just dissolve into other groups. I think the important thing is to encourage secular middle eastern nations to fight them and make sure they don't hold any land, so it's harder for them to have a central base of operations.

    They want the caliphate, they want world domination, and believe martyrdom is the way to paradise. They won't stop until all infidels are converted or dead.

    We have to win the battle of ideas, that's how we eliminate ISIS.
    We HAVE to take the stance that ISIS/Al Q Wahabist cults are HERETICS who use Islam as a cover for a sadistic/fascist power grab. We HAD moved in that direction and it's made progress. Mattix does advocate that.... however....Bannon + Miller flat out hate Muslims and with Trump as a megaphone.. that message is getting out loud and clear. this is dumb and dangerous.

    It recruits MORE into hostile cults like ISIS.
    At BEST we (with help) can reduce ISIS to small cells of hardcore terrorists. It's near impossible to know what EVERY person is up too. Any of us can be the target of the next nutcase on a killing spree. that nutcase can have ANY motive. Religious fanatics.. convince themselves their bad impulses are god's will... so... it gets REAL crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGecko View Post
    Where is ISIS's capital and where is its ONE and ONLY leader in a bunker in that capital???
    Washington and Oboma is their leader

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegoricalfact View Post
    Washington and Oboma is their leader
    Barking bloody mad, aren't they, these racist weirdoes who support the great fart?

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    civilized society can't eliminate murder, rape, theft or fraud. that's no reason to surrender to murderers, rapists, thieves and fraudsters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rorschach View Post
    We could always surrender, and accept their way of life.

    That could stop much of the conflict, I think. At least, we wouldn't have to worry about hurting any of THEM.

    And, they would probably be nice, as long as women submit to their male masters, men never shave, and, we take it upon ourselves to abuse NON-muslims, in the name of loving Allah.....
    Fuck that noise, Daddio.

    Make your own damned sammichs.

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