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Thread: Sweden Brings Back The Draft Due To Fears About Russia

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Probably the same reason we are. We don't have goals to take over the ME do we?
    No, but I think it's a danger that we will fight surrogacy wars again. ME or Eastern Europe or SE Asia.

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    If Sweden were worried about defending themselves from Russian invasion they'd be spending on missile defence.

    If they're drafting people, I'd guess the 'contingency plan' would be sending armed forces abroad to defend some former Soviet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Knuckles View Post
    If Sweden were worried about defending themselves from Russian invasion they'd be spending on missile defence.

    If they're drafting people, I'd guess the 'contingency plan' would be sending armed forces abroad to defend some former Soviet
    Missiles? Do you mean with nuclear warheads?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    There's a very popular movie right now on Netflix, about Russia invading Norway.
    People need to learn the difference between movies and reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metheron View Post
    People need to learn the difference between movies and reality.
    Do they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Do they?
    Well no, I guess they can choose ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    They realized they cant count on the US to honor its commitments while the Orange God is in power, they better be prepared for the worst.
    I remember it was President Obama who didn't honor his commitments, who sat by doing almost nothing while Russia invaded the Ukraine.

    Strange I don't remember you being critical of that. Yet you want to condemn President Trump for not honoring commitments before he even dishonors them.

    Partisanship. Gotta love it.
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    I think its more to do with the world destabilizing than just "russia"....and now with Trump as president, you have one of the worlds most powerful nations with THE largest military in the hands of a psychopathic toddler who isnt that bright to begin with.... SO,we go down fighting I guess (or maybe its just a way to feel like we have a chance, but if it all goes to shit, we will drown in it just like everyone else anyway)

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    @Madeline

    The port, Tartus, is one reason.

    And, to defend Assad, a Russian ally. Not necessarily for the sake of Assad himself, per se, but to protect Putin's own reputation at home.

    See, when the West took down Qaddafi in Libya, another good Russian ally, and Putin not only did not say anything, but Russia VOTED FOR IT in the UN, that was a big blow to his ratings among Russians. There were some not nice things whispered on the streets, very negative comparisons to how Yeltsin stood by as America and NATO destroyed little brotherly Serbia in the 90s. In short, people thought he was a weakling and a coward. In Russia, it is very not good, for a ruler, when people think of you that way. Brute force rules there, strength is the only thing Russians respect. So, when the West decided, now, to go after Assad, Putin had to show strength, as he also did in Crimea, to retain the respect of his people...

    The port in Tartus is of the utmost strategic importance. For if the Dardanelles are blocked, Russia still has a southern port (warm water). And as you note, Syria and Russia have ties that go back.
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    The need for defense remains a separate question from the need not to pay people to serve you. Fact is Sweden could pay the draftees an amount sufficient to ensure a sufficient quantity join of their own volition.
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