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    Quote Originally Posted by steezer View Post
    That's not why we are broke. Its decades of building up the military to be the world's 'police officer' and mega regime changer.
    Wrong. No wonder you guys have been losing state and national elections for 7 years now.

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    NO we can't!
    We can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger View Post
    That's part of being the ATM. We need some bases in some countries for the sake of access and that's in our national interests. But beyond that, no more freebies. Countries shouldn't expect us to be bailing them out of regional squabbles.
    We have approx. 700+ military bases in something like 130 foreign countries, depending on who you listen to.
    Seems expensive and excessive to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    How incredibly shortsighted. But it's par for course with conservatives.
    This political view is funded by the same bankers who bankrupted the entire economy so they could get a bigger yacht, forced the world's governments to go into debt for..oh, the next century at least...to cover their losses...and then waited just long enough for people to calm down a little before starting to re-inflate the same fucking bubble all over again.

    Short-sighted? Self-centered? Soulless? Sociopaths?

    Yeah, sure, I'd say all of that fits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    We have approx. 700+ military bases in something like 130 foreign countries, depending on who you listen to.
    Seems expensive and excessive to me.
    Way too many. They should pay us to be there in many cases, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger View Post
    Way too many. They should pay us to be there in many cases, imo.
    Generally we are not there for the host country's benefit but rather for ours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isalexi View Post
    Last week, the Trump administration defunded the United Nations Population Fund, the largest international maternal health organization on the planet, which provides family planning and reproductive health services in more than 150 countries. This includes emergency obstetric care, midwife training, and fistula repair.

    Last year, the United States' contribution of $69 million--or the price of roughly 35 taxpayer-funded weekends at Mar a Lago--helped prevent roughly 10,000 maternal deaths and 100,000 unsafe abortions.
    Sheesh, they are not Americans so they don't matter. Anyway, they are all rapist baby-killing Johnny Foreigners. (note: satire-figure it out before you jump to the 'report' button, guys)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger View Post
    Wrong. No wonder you guys have been losing state and national elections for 7 years now.

    We can.
    HOW? Tell us how!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Generally we are not there for the host country's benefit but rather for ours.
    That is so true. Who can forget what happened to New Zealand when they stopped US nuclear warships visiting their country? Crippling economic sanctions, to a supposedly friendly nation who merely wanted to remain nuclear free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blues63 View Post
    Sheesh, they are not Americans so they don't matter.
    Glad you said it. They don't. We can't keep paying for the world's problems, we're broke. It's the role of The Church and private charities to care for the needy voluntarily, not the US Govt to spend money we don't have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginger View Post
    Glad you said it. They don't. We can't keep paying for the world's problems, we're broke. It's the role of The Church and private charities to care for the needy voluntarily, not the US Govt to spend money we don't have.
    “No national security strategy is complete in the long run without promoting global health, political freedom and economic progress.”
    President George Bush, Washington Post, December 2010

    “The ultimate importance to the United States of our security and development assistance programs cannot be exaggerated. The programs and activities provided for in these bills will enable the United States to continue its contribution to the achievement of a secure and stable international environment.”
    President Ronald Reagan, Statement on Signing International Security and Foreign Assistance Legislation, December 29, 1981

    “Security assistance programs, an essential complement to our defense effort, directly enhance the security of the United States. Development assistance also contributes to this effort by supplementing the indigenous efforts of recipients to achieve economic growth and meet the basic needs of their peoples. Progress in both of these areas will contribute to regional stability and to a more peaceful world, both of which are central U.S. policy objectives.”
    President Ronald Reagan, Statement on Signing International Security and Foreign Assistance Legislation, December 29, 1981


    “We live in a dangerous world and a world of opportunity. Increasing our diplomatic and development resources is absolutely critical and money well spent to deal with the dangers and seize the opportunities. I commend the President for his commitment to these urgently-needed investments in our nation’s economic and national security.”
    Former Secretary of State Colin Powell, February 1, 2010


    “For the United States, supporting international development is more than just an expression of our compassion. It is a vital investment in the free, prosperous, and peaceful international order that fundamentally serves our national interest.”
    Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Speech at the White House Summit on International Development, October 21, 2008

    “The programs supported by the International Affairs Budget are as essential to our national security as defense programs. Development and diplomacy protect our nation by addressing the root causes of terrorism and conflict. But it’s not just about security. By building new markets overseas for American products, the International Affairs Budget creates jobs and boosts the economy here at home.”
    Former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge, Statement on the release of the President’s FY11 International Affairs Budget request, February 2010

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