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    A.u.e.

    I thought I'd write about the AUE tonight.

    This is a new... subculture, I guess, in Russia, among the youth. Very concerning.

    The abbreviation A.U.E. stands for (well, there are several interpretations, but this one is the most popular one) "Arestantskoe Urkaganskoe Edinstvo" ("Prisoners and Criminals Union").

    This subculture glorifies crime and violence; on their logo usually the abbreviation is accompanied by the eight-point star

    which is the main symbol of the Russian mafia, which the Theives in Law (gang bosses) tattoo on their bodies, four apiece, one on each shoulder which signifies their rank; plus one on each knee, which symbolize never kneeling to police or any authority, period


    Their motto, above, is "Long live the Thieves, death to snitches and trash men (slur for cops)"

    But the "Long live the Thieves" part is the more important one, they use that all the time, I noticed when they communicate online, they always say that, use it as signature and stuff.

    It's on t-shirts

    one also sees "AUE" more and more among the graffiti on the streets

    even on car plates, though the authorities have now finally banned that

    Basically, it is spreading criminal, gang culture among youth in Russia.

    You now have very young kids at schools walking around with the mafia tattoos

    The ringleaders referring to themselves as "pakhan", which is what grown up mob bosses, including Thieves, are called, usually.

    And these kids terrorize their schools, rob and extort money from classmates and other kids in their neighborhoods and towns, even attack and rob and beat adults too. In Moscow recently a gang was busted who violently robbed people, threatened and attacked with knives and clubs; beat one man half to death; and raped a woman. Led by two 18 years olds, and the rest - as young as 13, a dozen kids, all in all... All claim allegiance to the AUE...

    There'd been crime among youth before, sure, in some places - worse than others. It was even funny, in a way. Unlike US, with your Crips and Bloods and Surenos and whatnot, they never had these national franchise youth gangs, those were always local. Many - named after streets or other places that hold significance for the boys. So, for example, I read before, in the city of Yekaterinburg, there is one especially bad area, where, for a long time, residents complained, there are two big teen gangs which violently fought one another and created mayhem in the neighborhood: "McDonalds Group" and "Burger King Group". Seriously Two fast food joints in the hood. One served as base for one gang, other - for their rivals. They named themselves accordingly lol

    The AUE is different. Nationwide. Spreading via internet and word of mouth.

    On their online pages on VKontakte (Russian Facebook) and other places, you see kids posting pics bragging about being arrested

    Criminal convictions are now a thing to be PROUD of!

    Just all kind of screwed up nonsense like that one sees posted there...

    AUE doesn't give a damn about race/ethnicity either. Before, in Moscow, for example, youth gangs did divide by ethnicity, Slavic, Caucasian, etc. A.U.E. welcomes all. For example, I recently read about Buryatia, a region in Siberia populated by indigenous Mongolian people, where locals say AUE gangs are now everywhere, people are afraid to go out after dark, in some places.

    And in nearby 99% white Slavic Chita region, AUE kids terrorize entire towns and have actually attacked and smashed up a rural police station, trying to rescue a detained comrade! They smashed the windows, torn off security cameras, set a police van parked nearby on fire. There were only two cops on duty there, at the time. One fired his AK in the air to scare them off, while the other called for back up...

    AUE is like the mafia itself. Russian mafia is multi-ethnic, every nation of former Soviet Union has own faction and everything, own Thieves too. You especially see it abroad, like, here: Feds bust drug ring in early morning raids | New York Post

    I look at the names here: Leonid Gershman - Jew, Aleksey Tsvetkov - ethnic Russian, Renat Yusufov - Muslim from Caucasus, Igor Krugly - Russian, Vyacheslav Malkeyev - Russian, Isok Aronov - Jew, Yusif Pardilov - Caucasian, Mountain Jew from Dagestan, this is a very common name among those folks, Leonid Kotovnikov - Russian, Semen Parnis - Jew. And some kind of American Latino also associating with them, which is actually rather unusual, normally Russian criminal syndicates don't let in "outsiders", people not from ex-USSR.

    But, the above is interesting in itself.

    That's like... I don't know, lets say, if American gangs somehow expanded abroad, and you had, for example, some Crips, MS-13, and, I don't know, Hell's Angel bikers all working together. Imagine that... In Russia, that's reality. Crime unites all ethnic groups... I think it's part of what makes the Russian mob so damn strong resilient, for all these years... Gives them many advantages, certainly abroad, in the US. For example, through their Armenian factions, they have formed a big alliance with American Armenian street gangs in California. Etc.

    Not that I am praising the mafia, no, they've done plenty of harm to Russia itself, God knows... Including this AUE thing, which many say is their new way to recruit more young people. Although actually, even some real life Thieves in Law, big time mobsters, themselves condemned this this, believe it or not lol Many are uncomfortable with it, especially the elders, guys from Soviet era and the 90s, who say it was always against the Understandings, the code of the Russian criminal code, for them to recruit and use kids like that. But the younger Thieves, like that one in pic above, they don't give a crap about the old code anymore. They just want to make money. Mafia in Russia is a lot more like Mexican cartels now, frankly...

    This year, its coming to a head, after, at a festival in Chelyabinsk, angry youths fought with police and attacked a police car, after a comrade of theirs was arrested

    They shouted "A.U.E!"

    Recently, a well known sportsman, wrestler, Yuri Vlasko, a national and international champion

    was killed in his hometown in Siberia, stabbed to death in a fight in which a group of young men armed with blades attacked him and his friend on a beach after some previous altercation. Locals say the assailants were all AUE.

    Finally, at Putin's annual televised conference with the people, couple months back, a woman asked him to do something about the spread of the AUE ideology among the youth in her town. Said her children's school has become a dangerous place, not only non-AUE kids, but the adults, the teachers too. She said they (she is part of an activist group trying to fight it there) have evidence that grown up criminals are directing the AUE kids, they've seen adult men drive up in cars to schools to hand out drugs to the kids to deal to other kids; and to collect the drug or extorted/stolen/robbed money from them.

    It's an issue they've never had to deal with before, over there, police, prosecutors, the government. i hope they put a lid on it before it really gets out of control. There already was an incident, also in Siberia, I believe in aforementioned Chita region, AUE kids were extorting money from other kids at a school, and beat one lad pretty badly, after he refused to pay, put him in hospital; and also sexually harassed some of the girls. Later, a bunch of angry fathers of non-AUE kids met the AUE boys outside the school with baseball bats and such, and there was a good old Russian settling of scores... I believe there were injuries on both sides, worse for the young ones. Police is still sorting that one out.

    There will be more blood, if this goes on... More people will take the law in own hands, to defend own children...
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    Sounds like a typical gang thing.

    Odds are that people will grow out of it though.

    However, if it takes root and becomes an ideology that could be something difference.

    Still, from my basic research it sounds like they are mostly just thugs.

    Something to watch but they don't seem to have any fundamentals that would constitute an ideology.

    No politics or religion, just a bunch of hate.

    I really wouldn't worry too much about it other than their criminal activity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Sounds like a typical gang thing.

    Odds are that people will grow out of it though.

    However, if it takes root and becomes an ideology that could be something difference.

    Still, from my basic research it sounds like they are mostly just thugs.

    Something to watch but they don't seem to have any fundamentals that would constitute an ideology.

    No politics or religion, just a bunch of hate.

    I really wouldn't worry too much about it other than their criminal activity.
    It's already an ideology... Ties cleverly into their preexisting dislike and distrust of police and authority in general. As well as the feelings of deprivation, inadequacy, envy towards those wealthier and better off. Common emotions of the poor and disadvantaged, exactly who this thing preys upon... Pisses me off, really. I got sucked into bad shit that way myself at a young age also...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    It's already an ideology... Ties cleverly into their preexisting dislike and distrust of police and authority in general. As well as the feelings of deprivation, inadequacy, envy towards those wealthier and better off. Common emotions of the poor and disadvantaged, exactly who this thing preys upon... Pisses me off, really. I got sucked into bad shit that way myself at a young age also...
    Well technically to be an ideology there has to be things like an economic or political theory basis for it.

    Simple violence against authority is not enough.
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    Any culture with massive wealth inequality and massive poverty is going to experience massive crime. Affluent middle class kids do not have to join gangs to feel empowered. The richest most egalitarian countries always have the lowest crime rates, always.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Well technically to be an ideology there has to be things like an economic or political theory basis for it.

    Simple violence against authority is not enough.
    That's why I call it more a subculture or counterculture, than ideology per se.

    Russian kids are very into subcultures, they have many. Goths, punks, skateboarders, rappers, heavy metal guys, I could go on an on. This is another one, an evil, destructive, criminal one, which is hurting society there...

    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    Any culture with massive wealth inequality and massive poverty is going to experience massive crime. Affluent middle class kids do not have to join gangs to feel empowered. The richest most egalitarian countries always have the lowest crime rates, always.
    True. Economy is a huge factor. Decline of the auto industry in Detroit. Same over there, decline of the aircraft factories in Ulyanovsk for example, in the 90s, led to that city being overrun by youth crime, though they had a history of that going back to the post-War years, late 1940s and early 50s. But never to the extent of today. Now, at least, the industry is being somewhat rebuilt there, the factories working again, there reportedly are some improvements. Amazing what happens, when you provide people better opportunities in life

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