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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    The arab blood war continues. They have ALL been spoiling for this for decades.
    There is that. I've always been of the opinion that the persians and arabs hate each other more than they hate USA. It just so happens that the USA backed the arabs so by default we became the persians' enemy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    The Shah of Iran did the same. That didn't turn out well.

    yeah.. the USA openly backing Prince MBS could easily blow up in trump's face. Hopefully it won't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedminator View Post
    There is that. I've always been of the opinion that the persians and arabs hate each other more than they hate USA. It just so happens that the USA backed the arabs so by default we became the persians' enemy.
    their tribal blood feuds go back centuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedminator View Post
    There is that. I've always been of the opinion that the persians and arabs hate each other more than they hate USA. It just so happens that the USA backed the arabs so by default we became the persians' enemy.
    Well that, and we fomented a coup replacing their chosen leader with the shah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syrenn View Post
    their tribal blood feuds go back centuries.
    Not unlike europe.

    It is only recently the conflict in northern Ireland was resolved.

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    One point of view:

    Sifting through the rumours and assessing the balance of power in Saudi Arabia amounts to the equivalent of Kremlinology, the phrase used at the time of the Soviet Union to try to decipher the inner workings of the Kremlin.
    Nonetheless, what is confirmed as fact as well as the rumours appear to bolster suggestions that Prince Mohammed’s crackdown and power grab targeted among others factions of the ruling family related to late kings Abdullah and Fahd as well as the family of the powerful late interior minister and crown prince Nayef bin Abdulaziz al-Saud, Prince Mohammed bin Nayef’s father.
    What is certainly also true is that Prince Mohamed bin Salman’s crackdown on corruption strikes a popular cord among many in the kingdom who have long resented the awarding of often inflated mega contracts to members of the family as well as alleged land grabs by princes. Countering corruption beyond targeting potential critics and opponents has however a darker side in a country in which until the late 1950s members of the ruling families could access public funds for private use.
    This week’s publication by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ) of the *Paradise Papers, exposing the secret dealings and offshore interests of the global elite, potentially puts another member of ruling family in Prince Mohammed’s firing line.
    “Things may well quiet down but many in the guard and the navy don’t like the way things were managed,” said a well-placed source.
    The source’s assessment was echoed by former CIA official and Saudi expert Bruce Riedel. Following a tweet by US President Donald J. Trump in support of Prince Mohammed bin Salman’s crackdown, Mr. Riedel noted that “the Trump administration has tied the United States to the impetuous young crown prince of Saudi Arabia and seems to be quite oblivious to the dangers. But they are growing every day.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    One point of view:

    The source’s assessment was echoed by former CIA official and Saudi expert Bruce Riedel. Following a tweet by US President Donald J. Trump in support of Prince Mohammed bin Salman’s crackdown, Mr. Riedel noted that “the Trump administration has tied the United States to the impetuous young crown prince of Saudi Arabia and seems to be quite oblivious to the dangers. But they are growing every day.”

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    And why in the world is Jared conducting secret meetings with the Saudi's?
    The USA getting involved with internal arab politics is never popular over there so this is gonna get very ugly if it blows up on MSB and trump faces..



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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    You're scaring me, Ted.
    well there is bit that might cheer you up.. Murdoch to lose control of Fox?

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    Rupert and the Saudi Prince: Key Murdoch ally sells off shares in 21st Century Fox - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

    One of Rupert Murdoch's key business allies, who was arrested in last week's corruption crackdown in Saudi Arabia, has quietly sold off his $1.5 billion stake in 21st Century Fox.

    Key points:


    • For the first three quarters of 2017, the Prince, a huge backer of Murdoch, owned 39,737,915 shares
    • That went down to zero in the fourth quarter
    • The shares' new owners remain unknown at this stage


    The business relationship between Mr Murdoch and Prince Alwaleed bin Talal is now under new scrutiny, with Mr Murdoch's control over his family-controlled business empire looking more uncertain.

    "This is very big news," Murdoch watcher and shareholder activist Stephen Mayne said after the company confirmed Prince Alwaleed had offloaded his shareholdings in Fox and News Corporation. "He's been the number one backer of Murdoch family control of the public companies for the last 20 years." One of the world's richest men, the Prince is one of dozens of royal family members, officials and business leaders arrested in Saudi Arabia in recent days.
    ..snip..


    interesting.. I wonder why Prince Talal dump his stock and who picked up those 40 millions shares of Fox.
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