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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    LOL. The Man, you are off on this one, my friend.


    Maybe I am. But, I believe what I believe...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post


    Maybe I am. But, I believe what I believe...
    I mean the part about only having an interest in Lebanon. I understand your feelings on the other part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    I mean the part about only having an interest in Lebanon. I understand your feelings on the other part.
    They do. Yes, they also have forces in Syria, to help Assad; and probably have contacts with the Houthis in Yemen too, I'm sure. Lebanon is their primary area of operations though, their own country.

    Look, I see the Shias as the underdog in the Middle East, yes. Outnumbered and outgunned both by US-backed Sunni theocratic monarchies of the Gulf (including Bahrain, whose Sunni royalty reign over a majority Shia populace in a repressive apartheid that would make the rulers of South Africa in their heyday blush) on one side; and by also US-backed Israel on the other. The US-Saudi "Coalition", along with both AQ and ISIS, are trying hard to slaughter them in Yemen. In Syria, for all his own brutality, Assad is what stands between life and death for the Alawite and Shia population there, at the hands of also Western and Gulf-backed Sunni "rebels". And Lebanon would now be occupied by Israel much like the Golan, if not for Hezbollah. That's a fact.

    Ian claims Israel is defending themselves. I believe the region's only significant Shia power, Iran, are the ones defending themselves and fellow Shias over there. From both the Sunni Gulf block and Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    In this case, yes, as we were not counter-attacking the people who attacked us.
    Yes, we were. The organization was in Afghanistan, and the Taliban was hiding them. That made the Taliban complicit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly5 View Post
    I asked you a non-threatening question and you failed to answer it.
    No, you did not. In fact, in context your question made no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Since this document seems to mention Reagan, and even Brezhnev, it was clearly created a long time ago. I have to wonder just how relevant it remains today... [/IMG]
    The U.S. Constitution is even older, and it remains relevant.

    Seriously though, it's Hezbollah's defining document until they issue a revised version. If Hezbollah has a newer version that describes a willingness to seek peace with Israel, then please provide a link. But the "We exist to obliterate Israel" version is the newest I could find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Yes, we were. The organization was in Afghanistan, and the Taliban was hiding them. That made the Taliban complicit.
    Yet you did not attack Saudi Arabia, where the organisation originated, and was funded and otherwise supported from; and whose citizenship most 9/11 perpetrators held...

    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    The U.S. Constitution is even older, and it remains relevant.

    Seriously though, it's Hezbollah's defining document until they issue a revised version. If Hezbollah has a newer version that describes a willingness to seek peace with Israel, then please provide a link. But the "We exist to obliterate Israel" version is the newest I could find.
    I explained in that post why I do not find their admittedly extreme, hateful stance, necessarily automatically immoral and evil. It is a two-sided conflict.

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    Yet you did not attack Saudi Arabia, where the organisation originated, and was funded and otherwise supported from; and whose citizenship most 9/11 perpetrators held...
    I do not believe (correct me if I am wrong, but this is my best recollection) the Saudi government was involved in any of it, and none of the organization was actually there to be found. The individuals were all in Afghanistan at the time, with the permission of and protection from the Afghan government. (I also seem to recall some voices suggesting we should go after Saudi Arabia.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    I do not believe (correct me if I am wrong, but this is my best recollection) the Saudi government was involved in any of it, and none of the organization was actually there to be found. The individuals were all in Afghanistan at the time, with the permission of and protection from the Afghan government. (I also seem to recall some voices suggesting we should go after Saudi Arabia.)
    They should have gone after Saudi.

    Saudi (and NOT Iran) is the number one state sponsor of terrorism and extremism out there. This is well known.

    I can also understand attacking the Talibs in Afghanistan.

    But, what was the point of going into Iraq, I will never comprehend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    They should have gone after Saudi.

    Saudi (and NOT Iran) is the number one state sponsor of terrorism and extremism out there. This is well known.

    I can also understand attacking the Talibs in Afghanistan.

    But, what was the point of going into Iraq, I will never comprehend.
    Sure you do. Oil. We were in Afghanistan for a pipeline.
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