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    Why WC2018 will be crime-free

    I remember reading about folks worrying about crime, when traveling to World Cup events in South Africa and Brazil. Gangs and such.

    Well, that actually shouldn't be a problem this time around, in Russia, despite that country's crime ridden society.

    You see, in Russia, crime works WITH and FOR the State, not AGAINST it.

    Already, just like before Sochi Olympics, the security authorities are bring in the Vory, the Thieves in Law, the mafia bosses, in for talks.

    In Moscow, I just read, Guram Chikhladze was just paid a visit

    Chikhladze is a powerful figure in the Georgian mob, despite his relative youth, and is said to control pretty much all street crime in the Moscow neighborhoods where the WC games will take place, especially around Luzhniki Stadium. All the barsetka gangs (who smash people's car windows and grab purses and such from the cars); apartment burglars; even most muggers and pickpockets in these areas answer to "Kvezhoevich", as Chikhladze is known on the streets there


    And Chikhladze has apparently given his personal guarantees - all the gangs will be on the leash for the tournament, there will be no embarrassing incidents, such as a violent robbery of a foreigners. He gave his word as a Vor, in that regard. And that means a lot over there.

    Russian criminal world is highly structured and hierarchical. Every city has a so-called "Smotryashiy" ("Overseer"), a high-ranked Vor from the local mob group; same for many prisons, with those where the Vor Overseers are outright in charge and run things completely referred to as "Black Prison", where, in some of them, mobsters have been photographed with guns (!) in their cells


    The Vory control everything on the streets, everything that goes on, period. There may be some youth gangs and such, who do their own thing

    But ultimately, those are run by the grown up mafia too, through things like AUE:
    A.u.e.
    How ISIS is trying to recruit young Americans

    Moscow, the huge imperial capital that it is, has lots, dozens, of Vory and Overseers, from many ethnic groups from all over ex-USSR, all controlling various districts and neighborhoods. When the government tells them they need criminal activity wound down for a certain period, such as for the World Cup, they comply.

    In return, they get to live very rich and glamorous lifestyles.

    For example, Gia Zarandia, aka Gia Galsky, another powerful Georgian mobster, lives in a huge mansion and is married to Yulia Volkova, the pop star you may know from T.A.T.U.


    And Sergey Mikhailov, aka "Mikhas", the Slavic Vor who runs the 5,000-strong Solntsevo Bratva, the mightiest criminal syndicate in the nation

    also lives large, with his shadowy legal and illegal business empire, Moscow penthouses, pricey wine, and also beautiful celebrity women, like the actress Katya Arkharova


    Also, fun fact, the "businessman" Mikhailov has been awarded a special official golden Kremlin watch by Putin, for "outstanding philanthropic work"



    These are the guys all the foreign visitors will owe their peace and safety to, this summer... In fact, even the hooligan gangs in many of the cities might also be held back, in part, less by the cops and more by the Vory. Their leaders, in many cases, also answer to the Overseers...

    For once, Russia's crime and corruption actually has a positive role...
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    Euro soccer "fans" gonna be there?

    Nuff said...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    Euro soccer "fans" gonna be there?

    Nuff said...
    You mean the 50 year old British "Yobs" with their threats recently? lol

    Give me a break... Those guys are used to European police... They will shit themselves when meet Russian OMON.

    Nah, nothing gonna happen, I am sure of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    You mean the 50 year old British "Yobs" with their threats recently? lol

    Give me a break... Those guys are used to European police... They will shit themselves when meet Russian OMON.

    Nah, nothing gonna happen, I am sure of it.
    Hope you are right.

    I've heard too many reports of Euro soccer "fans".

    Not that the S Americans are any better.

    And probably other places...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    Hope you are right.

    I've heard too many reports of Euro soccer "fans".

    Not that the S Americans are any better.

    And probably other places...
    The Poles may try to cause trouble. They are another big rival of Russians. But, again, they will be outnumbered and not on their turf. I think they'll be smart to behave...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    You mean the 50 year old British "Yobs" with their threats recently? lol

    Give me a break... Those guys are used to European police... They will shit themselves when meet Russian OMON.

    Nah, nothing gonna happen, I am sure of it.
    I agree. I think this will pass like Sochi. Very peaceful.

    Some "smart" football hooligan groups might try something at the beginning and but then Russian police will make an example out of them. This is not France 1998 when hooligans killed a police officer and we all then had to wait for a month for culprits to be apprehended.

    I honestly hope some idiots do try something and the police is let loose on them. I think police should be given full rights to deal with zero tolerance against hooligans. In every country in Europe, not just Russia. Those are criminals posing as football fans. Scum.
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    They've threatened, the Brits did:

    ENGLAND hooligan firms have teamed up to infiltrate Russia weeks before the World Cup – and are plotting joint "revenge" attacks on ultras.

    They have been hard at work planning the best way to cause chaos in Russia, Daily Star Online has discovered.

    We spoke to a 57-year-old Middlesbrough fan from the Smoggies Elite involved in organising the “Great Britain contingent” travelling to the World Cup.

    He explained the Russians had written them off after ambushing fans at Euro 2016, but claimed “they won’t know what’s hit them” this time.

    Choosing to remain anonymous, the 'Boro fan said: ”We’ve been keeping tabs on them for a while, and honestly, if these gangs of thugs are all they’ve got, this is going to be a f****** walk-over.”

    The buzzing fighter is a self-proclaimed “warrior” of the “old hardcore” who he claims are uniting ahead of the World Cup after several London meet-ups.

    He explained leaders from Millwall, West Ham, Rangers and several firms from north east England are coming together to form an experienced ambushing unit.

    “When you’ve got the Scots talking in London pubs to Millwall’s old hardcore, you know it’s on,” he said.

    “Most of us will arrive around two weeks before the tournament starts. Sending everyone over just before kick-off would be stupid. We’re heavily filtering ourselves.

    “We’ve got to be careful because we’ve got a lot of people. We can’t just bombard the borders or you’ll have guards saying ‘hang on a minute, this lot look shifty’.”

    He also explained the firms would be leaving their footie tops behind in a bit to go under the radar.

    “We’re not going to go dressed in England shirts, hats or shorts," he said.

    “We’ll be fully casual to blend in like tourists on holiday.”

    Lads from England were sent over in advance to investigate several Russian towns, gather information on the layout of the streets and report back.

    The fan added: “We know the danger areas, we’ve already cased out all the routes and we know everything we need to.”

    Shockingly, the brawler revealed the “hooligan element” has contacts working undercover in specific towns and information is continually being fed to them.

    He said: “I can’t even stress enough to you how well-planned this is. We’ve had lads working out there for a while.

    “Last time the Russians went mostly for families. This time they’ve got a bunch of experienced, hard b******* to deal with.”

    The World Cup kicks off on June 14, with host nation Russia taking on Saudi Arabia.

    England play Tunisia in Volgograd on June 18.
    England firms INFILTRATE Russia before World Cup to plot joint 'revenge attacks' on ultras

    Three Lions hooligans are laughing at suggestions by some Russians they’d “have a drink after the fighting” with the English, as the united mob are out for blood.

    A hooligan from the Smoggies Elite hardcore told Daily Star Online a tightly-knit group of firms had come together to give the Russians hell.

    He said: “If people think this is one big joke and that we’re going to play a football game and have a drink and a fag and a chat – that’ll never happen.

    “There’s Geordie blokes who are 50 or 60-years-old, they’re going crazy. They can’t wait for the World Cup.

    “This is going to be like World War Three, Four, Five, Six and Seven.

    “It’s funny because they think they intimidate us with their little scraps in the woods. They really have no idea what’s coming to them.”

    “They all use weapons – iron bars, knives, bats – we only need our fists.”

    We revealed last week England firms had a “military-level” plan to infiltrate Russia and had already sent lads over to work in advance to feed them intel.

    “Yeah, we’ve got a few lads who’ve been banned over the years – but we’ve got a way to get into Russia without any problems,” the anonymous hooligan said.

    He explained Millwall, West Ham, Rangers, the Manchester clubs and firms from the north East had come together under one banner for “payback”.

    The firms have also rejected advances from smaller firms like QPR’s hardcore due to bad blood with West Ham in the past.

    “We’re only fighting alongside lads we’ve been scrapping over the years. Lads we trust.

    “We’re going to police our supporters with families, so they’re safe while they watch the game, because Russian police aren’t going to.

    “There’s no such thing as protection over there. There’s 24,000 fans going over and without us they’ll be like chickens going to the slaughter.”

    He revealed that although Italy didn’t make the World Cup, a contingent of their fans are heading over to cause trouble with the English.

    “It’s three or four countries on one. We don’t care though. We’ve got the Scots with us – some really hard b*******.”

    With the World Cup so close, communication between Russian Ultras and the English has gone quiet however, according to our source.

    “There’s no word in the last week or two. It’s definitely a ploy, but it doesn’t matter anymore. Everything’s organised.”

    He also explained the riled-up English lads didn’t care about Russian police.

    “As long as we get over there and do what needs to be done, nobody gives a s*** about getting arrested,” he said.

    “We aren’t one bit worried. There’s no what ifs in street fighting.”

    “The only thing that’s going to happen is we take the fight to the Russians. What happens after that happens.”

    The World Cup kicks off on June 14, with host nation Russia taking on Saudi Arabia.

    England play Tunisia in Volgograd on June 18.
    England hooligan firms’ hardcore UNITING to 'wipe the floor' with Russian Ultras

    And the Russian authorities answered, fast:

    Russian law enforcement agencies do not think that mass fights, similar to those that took place during the European Championships in France in March 2016, can be possible during the World Cup in Russia, Deputy Minister of Internal Affairs Igor Zubov, said.

    Zubov's statement came as a comment from The Daily Star publication, which earlier said that British fans of several football clubs, in particular Millwall, West Ham, Manchester United, Manchester City and others, were going to come to Russia to unleash WWIII for Russia fans and show them "hell."

    "This is a very bold statement. Yet, those fights that one could see happening during the European Football Championship in 2016 in France, are not going to happen in Russia," he said.

    The official also said that all those instigating riots would be deported from Russia. "We will not allow any mass fights. We can do this," he summed up.

    The World Cup 2018 is going to take place in 11 Russian cities - Moscow, St. Petersburg, Kazan, Rostov-on-Don, Nizhny Novgorod and others from June 14 to July 15. In connection with the tournament, Russian President Vladimir Putin instructed to introduce special security measures in the country.
    Russian law-enforcers respond to British fans, who threaten to unleash WWIII during World Cup

    But it ain't the cops they'll need to worry about, it's the Russian Ultra hooligans, whom these idiots think they will "wipe the floor" with.

    Last time, in Marseilles, they, the British, had big numerical advantage, it was like 30 or 40 Brits to 1 Russian over there, I think; and still the Russians kicked the crap out of them, literally

    they were laying around unconscious all over the place afterwards


    Russians with captured English flag

    Insane, a fucking battle it was over there...

    And this time, they will be on those guys', the Russians', home turf, THEY will be the ones horribly outnumbered, they will have old guys in their 50s and 60s, according to those articles I posted here, while the Russians will even have 30, 20 year old guys, even some teenagers, apparently:

    World Cup WARNING: Russian thugs train KIDS as young as 13 to ATTACK England fans

    Experience is great, but no match for youth IMHO Especially, again, in much superior numbers.

    And the Russians will likely have weapons too, as the English themselves have also acknowledged.

    In France, they had to grab bottles and chairs and whatever the fuck they got their hands on.

    Here, they gonna be carrying hammers

    and knives and other dangerous items. Flares and firecrackers for throwing too, at least.

    Maybe even guns, at last, some recently posed with such, in a pretty scare ad campaign aimed clearly at those Brits


    Maybe the cops will be taking those away from them, as in that pic. Or maybe not. That's another thing, the English can't count on law enforcement being on their side here either. Not that the French cops would have been either, probably lol But, still, that was Europe, rule of law and all. It's different here. If there is a brawl and a bunch of Russian Ultras and stomping on a Brit hool, maybe the Rosgvardia will intervene and save the Brit. Or, maybe they will walk on, whistle, and let them beat on him some more first... Just the way it is...

    My advice to the Brits: don't be stupid. Stay the fuck away. This ain't a fight you want. Not one you will win, for sure. I still say that, between the authorities and the mob, they should keep things quiet and peaceful at the tournament. But if those British try to actually start something, it might just turn into a fucking bloodbath... Jesus...
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    Maybe we need to reconsider our immigration numbers from Russia. Crime being a way of life for so many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    Maybe we need to reconsider our immigration numbers from Russia. Crime being a way of life for so many.
    Too late for that lol

    Russian mob is all over Brighton Beach and other areas in NYC:

    Feds bust drug ring in early morning raids | New York Post

    Among other places. I've read about Russian mafiozos coming up in places you completely wouldn't expect, like Atlanta, (US state of) Georgia, where they get involved with local gangsters: Russian Mob Boss Denied Bail In Murder Of Lil' Phat | The Source

    Crazy. They are everywhere now. Hundreds of thousands of members in over 50 countries, no joke. One of the largest criminal organizations on the planet. Some Russians are actually proud of it lol I guess the country has not much else to be proud of, at the moment...

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    Our stupid immigration just keeps on being stupid.
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