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    American business has never asked my opinion on how they conduct their business. On only a few occaisions has the American people influenced what American businesses do.

    For the most part, US business does not consult with Americans on their business decisions here and abroad.

    When American businesses started to move jobs and production out of county, they did not consulate with the American people to do so.

    We were told by Conservatives, the problem with American business was the federal government...less government meant more success for American business

    Now we have someone at the top of the government saying he has to micro-manage all aspects of US Business. What happened?

    What happened in 10 years where the US government went to the problem to the Savior?

    What happened?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Especially since that Poster does not live in the US. He just wants to rant about Obama.

    I understand how Subsidies and Tariffs work. I understand why they were put on,originally.

    But why not an agreement that does away with all of them?

    We all know there were Political reasons for every one of them !I understand why. But if all Countries would agree why not?
    I don't know, but if you let the markets decide how land is used, a couple good years in the housing market could dry up your farms and convert them all into condos.

    Globally, it sounds good, except the price of currency gives some nations an advantage over others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    Especially since that Poster does not live in the US. He just wants to rant about Obama.

    I understand how Subsidies and Tariffs work. I understand why they were put on,originally.

    But why not an agreement that does away with all of them?

    We all know there were Political reasons for every one of them !I understand why. But if all Countries would agree why not?
    My guess is to get rid of all subsidies and tariffs at once would be incredibly disruptive economiclly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by galatin View Post
    Unfortunately seen from abroad the US do not have the skilled Manpower they need…… There is a basic problem there………. You have the Ivy leage but you need also skilledmanpower and for most European companies producing in the US it is a headache. You just do not find technicians in many indsutrial field…. The purpose of my post was not praising my country but to go beyond focusing on the unpleasant questions of workers left behind in the US. I have the feeling that many Americans have only little knowledge of how things are abroad and still consider that American exceptionalism is still what makes the US different from the rest of the world, which was true after WWII but faded away over the year. My feeling is that the US are not ready to adjust to mutations and do not address facts as before, but prefer to rely on a mythical image of their country, which would be ok, if they would address new realities.But is it the case ?
    I am sorry to say there is a lot of truth in that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    Im going to highlight one issue and you tell me how you and Donald Trump see America as getting screwed.

    US has a massive dairy industry. US milk producers want to flood the Canadian market with US milk. Canadian milk producers fear their industry will suffer if the US has unfettered access to the Canadian market.

    Who is Prime Minister Justin Trudeau supposed to protect? Donald Trump believes Canada placing price hikes on US dairy as unfair but the US supports US dairy with price supports.

    Overproduction of dairy is world-wide and a shift to almond and other milk substitutes is putting more pressure on producers.

    Australia and EU gives their producers price supports. Russia blocks US and EU dairy products.

    The US has been in trade negotiations for the past 70 years. It is a constant and ongoing negotiations. What we have never have had is a person at the top making things worse and calling allies ridiculous names.

    Donald Trump promises to fix trade. Trade is an ongoing process. If Trump can not understand that simple fact...he's lost even before he's started.
    Why does American overproduction become a problem for Canada to fix? Isnt the free market supposed to mitigate that?

    Meanwhile, just across the St Lawrence river in what free-trading Americans like to call Soviet Canuckistan, the dairy industry is thriving like never before – and like none other in the developed world. Family farms milking an average of 80 cows each have prospered under a heavily regulated system that supports prices at sustainable levels by restricting domestic overproduction and keeping imports at bay. In 2016, Canadian farmers received an average price of C$0.79 a litre for milk, compared with C$0.49 on average for US farmers.

    The result is that dairying remains a key economic support of traditional rural life throughout central Canada. As critics of the system like to point out, hoping to inspire resentment among consumers annoyed by the price of milk, Canadian dairy farmers enjoy incomes 60% above average in the country. But to supporters, the uniquely prosperous, protected Canadian dairy industry stands as a model alternative to the increasingly disruptive and unpopular dynamic of unrestricted free trade in all things.

    Supply management enjoys strong government support in no small part because the policy obviates the need to subsidize farmers directly in the manner of the US and the EU – the two greatest culprits behind the current world dairy glut.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/co...a-us-trade-war
    It seems that Canada has found a balance that works well for Canada.
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    The Obama pussy days are long gone.
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    Ok, here is another view. I listened to a long discussion about Canada stealing our auto plants.

    First they moved to Mexico, then Canada So,some of the things Trump is saying are right.

    And this discussian was with an Auto worker.

    The Schools and Colleges after years of neglect are now rushing to provide the skills that are needed now.

    Steven Brill just had an excellent discussion about what has happened to our economy the last 50 years on Brian Seler.rerun will be on at 3PM,my time. Really worth listening to. He also heavily criticized the Media.

    Thanks to all who gave answers. My original intent was to start a discussion. Not lay blame, this is a problem we need to solve.

    We also need to lay the pressure on our do nothings in Congress. If they are not willing to work and compromise they need to go. Both parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
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    Only one,who pretends to be from the Uk. You be the Judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    American business has never asked my opinion on how they conduct their business. On only a few occaisions has the American people influenced what American businesses do.

    For the most part, US business does not consult with Americans on their business decisions here and abroad.

    When American businesses started to move jobs and production out of county, they did not consulate with the American people to do so.

    We were told by Conservatives, the problem with American business was the federal government...less government meant more success for American business

    Now we have someone at the top of the government saying he has to micro-manage all aspects of US Business. What happened?

    What happened in 10 years where the US government went to the problem to the Savior?

    What happened?
    This did not happen in the last 10 years. Try the last 50, and we have had Administraions from both parties.

    You are right in what you say, but now we have no one to fix things. And no matter what we think Voters are turning away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    I am sorry to say there is a lot of truth in that.
    Not really. He is just giving his view of what he thinks. I see huge change in what is taking place in our Country. Many are working on changing things.

    I see it from my point of view. From workers, Professors, High Schools and Colleges.

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