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    Sometimes, I'm actually just glad I won't be alive in 100 years anyway...
    lol well, as has been said, you have nothing to fear but fear itself.
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    Transnistria is also a place of many traffics, guns smuggling etc.... and it seems to be a luxury that Russia seems ready to afford because it costs in direct help about 30 millions USD a year. There huge quantity of weapons stocked there and History was not kind to Moldova. It was in the area called Bessarabia before and after WWII was part of Soviet Union with a will of Stalin to russify it. Russian became the official language and people had to write their own language which is very close to Romanian in Cyrillic. When Soviet Union collapsed Sovietic/russian troops remain there and it was the start of the Republic of Transnistria. Actually the European Union is trying to help developping Transnistria but it is one of the poorest country of Europe. Russia has a strategic interest to be present in Transnistria as long as it wants to keep what it considers as being part of its zone of influence. It is a totally artificial creation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by galatin View Post
    Transnistria is also a place of many traffics, guns smuggling etc.... and it seems to be a luxury that Russia seems ready to afford because it costs in direct help about 30 millions USD a year. There huge quantity of weapons stocked there and History was not kind to Moldova. It was in the area called Bessarabia before and after WWII was part of Soviet Union with a will of Stalin to russify it. Russian became the official language and people had to write their own language which is very close to Romanian in Cyrillic. When Soviet Union collapsed Sovietic/russian troops remain there and it was the start of the Republic of Transnistria. Actually the European Union is trying to help developping Transnistria but it is one of the poorest country of Europe. Russia has a strategic interest to be present in Transnistria as long as it wants to keep what it considers as being part of its zone of influence. It is a totally artificial creation.
    Moldovans language is not "close" to Romanian, it IS Romanian. As you said, Moldova/Bessarabia was originally simply a Romanian province, annexed by Stalin. Though, the Bessarabia Governorate was also, before the Commie Revolution, part of the Russian Empire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bessarabia_Governorate

    Transnistria/Pridnestrovie has a two-thirds Slav population. It is very much distinct from the rest of Moldova.

    They have asked Putin multiple times to just annex them, like Crimea: Moldova's Trans-Dniester region pleads to join Russia

    As this sign in the photo in above BBC article states

    "We remember: we are not Moldova!"

    But, Putin doesn't want to formally annex them either. Too complicated, logistically, politically. Crimea is right up close to Russia. Pridnestrovie is separated by a now hostile Ukraine, among other things. I'd be another Kaliningrad, and worse. Ukraine and Moldova can blockade them together, as Russia has accused them of, in recent times: Moldova and Ukraine MFA reject Russia Duma accusations on blocking Transnistria

    But, again, the Pridnestrovians control Moldova's energy, so they have that leverage, in turn. And neither Moldova nor Ukraine are gonna risk all out war with Russia over this shit either...

    So, yeah... They have lived like this for, what, 26 or something years now, as an unrecognized yet existing republic, in some sort of a international legal limbo... Crazy... Just like my ex-compatriots in Abkhazia also...
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    Yes, but the 2/3 Slavic element you mentioned are imported people from different part of soviet Union, like you have such situations in many part of the Soviet empire,with a lot of them having to move to Russia after 1990. Even if time may bring somekind of legitimacy, it remains an historical fact. Furthermore it was common in Soviet times to deport full ethnical groups,like the Tartars of Crimea, the german of the Volga, 30% of Estonians and to put this way things upside down. So how to repair the evils of History ?
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    Wasn’t that region featured in a musical?

    I'm just a sweet transvestite from Transsexual, Transnistria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by galatin View Post
    Transnistria is also a place of many traffics, guns smuggling etc.... and it seems to be a luxury that Russia seems ready to afford because it costs in direct help about 30 millions USD a year. There huge quantity of weapons stocked there and History was not kind to Moldova. It was in the area called Bessarabia before and after WWII was part of Soviet Union with a will of Stalin to russify it. Russian became the official language and people had to write their own language which is very close to Romanian in Cyrillic. When Soviet Union collapsed Sovietic/russian troops remain there and it was the start of the Republic of Transnistria. Actually the European Union is trying to help developping Transnistria but it is one of the poorest country of Europe. Russia has a strategic interest to be present in Transnistria as long as it wants to keep what it considers as being part of its zone of influence. It is a totally artificial creation.
    Unless I am very much mistaken, Moldova IS the poorest country in all of Europe.
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    It is quite true…… you are not mistaken. There is also an important support to Moldova from the EU to try to improve the economical situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Unless I am very much mistaken, Moldova IS the poorest country in all of Europe.
    Romania, their big brother, is the poorest in EUROPE. Moldova is... well, maybe not poorest in ALL ex-USSR (places in Central Asia, like Tajikistan, are worse); but certainly the poorest of the "white" republics, for sure...

    Quote Originally Posted by galatin View Post
    It is quite true…… you are not mistaken. There is also an important support to Moldova from the EU to try to improve the economical situation.
    If there is, it is certainly not very effective, thus far... My brother in law is Moldovan. He went back there not long ago to visit family. Still shocked how poor and run down the place is... Of course, he is comparing to Canada, after many years here lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by galatin View Post
    Yes, but the 2/3 Slavic element you mentioned are imported people from different part of soviet Union, like you have such situations in many part of the Soviet empire,with a lot of them having to move to Russia after 1990. Even if time may bring somekind of legitimacy, it remains an historical fact. Furthermore it was common in Soviet times to deport full ethnical groups,like the Tartars of Crimea, the german of the Volga, 30% of Estonians and to put this way things upside down. So how to repair the evils of History ?
    Tatars we're transplants in Crimea also. Their home is Central Asia someplace. Original Crimeans are Greeks. Who, BTW, are still there, and are asking Russia to rename the place now: Renaming Crimea

    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Man View Post
    Romania, their big brother, is the poorest in EUROPE. Moldova is... well, maybe not poorest in ALL ex-USSR (places in Central Asia, like Tajikistan, are worse); but certainly the poorest of the "white" republics, for sure...

    If there is, it is certainly not very effective, thus far... My brother in law is Moldovan. He went back there not long ago to visit family. Still shocked how poor and run down the place is... Of course, he is comparing to Canada, after many years here lol
    Romania seems to be quite a bit better off than Moldova. This site gives a real GDP per capita for Romania of $10080.97:

    https://tradingeconomics.com/romania/gdp-per-capita

    The same site gives a real GDP per capita for Moldova of ONLY $2063, which is poorer than several sub-Saharan African countries!
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