33 Steps for America

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Had the Founding Fathers foreseen the filth, madness and horror of Margaret Sanger, the flappers, burlesque, Alfred Kinsey, Hugh Hefner, Anton LaVey, the Stonewall riots, Woodstock '69, San Fernando Valley as "porn valley", acid trips, Roe v. Wade, Madonna Ciccone, the crack epidemic, PCP, the opioid epidemic, men in women's restrooms and "After School Satan", they would have agreed with the essentials of the 50 Steps, even if they were mostly Protestants.

Also, I never said the 50 Steps would create a "paradise". We live in fallen nature, tainted by Original Sin. Only in Heaven is there perfection. The 50 Steps are, however, vastly preferable to the chaos and immorality of present-day Western hedonism and secularism.

I'm guessing they don't let you out much.

Amirite?
 
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The idea that one person telling another what to do is inherently immoral is a preposterous regression to toddler tantrums of "No!" It all depends on what the order being given is. Human beings are fundamentally hierarchical. The dishonest, once they taste the power of uprooting the truth with lies and temptations, will never cease unless we make them.

And bird, I find your comments hilarious for two reasons. I spent my childhood devouring English history. I know all about the Anglican apostasy and also the excesses of Mary I. What is your point? None of them at their worst could hold a candle to the Cheka under Lenin. I'm not sure if you even have the stomach to read about what they did. 20th century atheists and Theosophists (yes, that's essentially what Nazis were, hence the Hindu swastika) committed more human rights violations, even by a very liberal definition of human rights, than all of the Christian governments of 16 centuries combined.

The other reason I find your comments hilarious, in a darkly humorous sort of way, is your assertion that most people today are moral. Seriously? We make into our wealthiest celebrities people like Shawn "Jay-Z" Carter, who wore a shirt of the devil doing something I won't even mention to Jesus, and his wife Beyoncé, who spoke of doing something I likewise won't mention to the Holy Bible. No real backlash... The majority of males on the Internet view pornographic material. Women are giving themselves cancer with hormonal birth control and having babies pulled limb from limb, literally, from their wombs, because our society takes such a dim view of motherhood.

And then there is the "LGBTQ" mania, which was ushered in by Dan Savage, who naturally is the very picture of morality, decency and respect. Elle magazine is promoting an 8-year-old "drag queen" as I speak... and worst of all, if anyone objects, he or she is instantly branded a bigot. We aren't just amoral; we have good and evil inverted in our society, so that if there is a devil, and I believe there is, he could imagine nothing "better", from his point of view.

Most fundamental of all, by teaching kids that they are random biomass in a meaningless universe, we give them nothing but anomie. We give couples no reason to wait until Marriage or stay together, and then we have broken homes to boot, so we have miserable kids told that everything is purposelessly decaying into entropy, and then we wonder why we have drugs, gangs, teenage drinking, fornication, STD's and even worse... this is the "morality" of a secularized society. At best it's relativism, but since about the time Obama took office, it has turned into an inversion of right and wrong. I could go into the political and mystical intrigue that has led us to the brink of this abyss, but that's for another thread, as it would take extensive explanation. The bottom line is that what I would call the devil and you would call dangerous mental illness is now in charge of the "progressive" and libertarian elements of our society, and seeps in one way or another into the lives of most people in the modern-day West. I'm not the one promoting a dystopia. If dystopia was what I wanted, I would propose nothing, because we're already in one, the more so because most of us are oblivious of it. I'm not much for recent pop culture, but we really do need to stop taking the blue pill.
 
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The only difference between me and liberals and libertarians of any kind is that they pretend to be tolerant. I do not. I admit to being intolerant, but they say things like "Ban all religious zealots", which is at the core of all cultural "permissiveness"- to outlaw all ideologies deemed insufficiently permissive in a logical paradox of refusing to tolerate intolerance. This illustrates why I take such a hardline stance: When lies and self-deceiving lifestyles are legal, sooner or later they will, in their disordered mindset, demand the abolition of the truth. Thus, the First Amendment should be repealed, ultimately, which is more or less implied in #33, because in practice, speech will be restricted. It's just a matter of whether or not truth or lies are what we allow, because they cannot co-exist.

And to CtC, when I was asked, upon joining this site, I checked "populist". I side with conservatives as an expedient measure only, because I don't believe that souls are lost from poor economic policies, while I do believe cultural degeneracy destroys souls. My economic views are, if you noticed, actually a bit left-of-center by American standards. I quit watching one conservative pundit's videos after he made a very insulting remark about opponents (like me) of so-called "free" trade. I have very low regard for globalism of any kind, economic or otherwise.

My goals are ultimately humane, in that sense, because I believe that denying liberty, while initially unpleasant, is finite, while Heaven and Hell are eternal and therefore infinite, so which is more loving... to let young people get every kind of bad idea put in their heads and end up lost forever, or to restrict freedom in this world to get more people to Heaven in the next?

Also, I'm far from stupid, if academic measures mean anything. I have, as you may have noticed, a rather good vocabulary. In elementary school, I got nothing but A's, and on standardized tests, I usually scored in the top percentile of all test takers. I would have been a school representative in a spelling bee if I hadn't gotten ill. I have never been diagnosed with any form of psychosis, but cultural liberals would undoubtedly claim that I was crazy. The irony is that this is from people who think events like the Summer of Love and Woodstock '69 were meaningful, inspiring moments in history. Yeah, and I'm the crazy one?!
I don't like repression in any form. Left or right. I would say I am a "Randian" ? "Randite"? Objectivism is the WAY. The MIND is what separates us from animals.The CREATIVE mind is the most valuable resource on Earth.
 
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Had the Founding Fathers foreseen the filth, madness and horror of Margaret Sanger, the flappers, burlesque, Alfred Kinsey, Hugh Hefner, Anton LaVey, the Stonewall riots, Woodstock '69, San Fernando Valley as "porn valley", acid trips, Roe v. Wade, Madonna Ciccone, the crack epidemic, PCP, the opioid epidemic, men in women's restrooms and "After School Satan", they would have agreed with the essentials of the 50 Steps, even if they were mostly Protestants.

Also, I never said the 50 Steps would create a "paradise". We live in fallen nature, tainted by Original Sin. Only in Heaven is there perfection. The 50 Steps are, however, vastly preferable to the chaos and immorality of present-day Western hedonism and secularism.
That Madonna sang a song about "liking a little spanky with her hanky-panky". That was very naughty of her, and Phyllis Schlafly just about went ballistic over it. Talked about it as if it meant the end of the Republic.

I guess you're kind of saying the same thing, actually.

That's very funny.

Just the idea that a little erotic spanking could bring about the end of the Republic.

VERY funny.
 
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Human beings, in the final analysis, create nothing. If atheism is correct, then we are biomass that is neither created nor destroyed, but simply rots into entropy, and ideas are merely electrochemical impulses in the nervous system, making us just slightly more complex animals. If, on the other hand, the Roman Catholic faith is correct, then God created and creates everything, and we are merely cooperating, if we so choose, with plans already in the Mind of God. Either way, the myth of human creativity is a Gnostic superstition.
 
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Human beings, in the final analysis, create nothing. If atheism is correct, then we are biomass that is neither created nor destroyed, but simply rots into entropy, and ideas are merely electrochemical impulses in the nervous system, making us just slightly more complex animals. If, on the other hand, the Roman Catholic faith is correct, then God created and creates everything, and we are merely cooperating, if we so choose, with plans already in the Mind of God. Either way, the myth of human creativity is a Gnostic superstition.
And you guys thought you had wiped out all of us Gnostics back around 400 AD.

Ha! You never got ALL of us.

And here we are. Still alive and kicking in the 21st Century. And still a thorn in your side.

Because MOST people actually do believe in human creativity.

So we're winning.
 
Apr 2019
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Leroy, you must truly live under a rock if you think that is even CLOSE to being the worst thing Ciccone has done in her career. I have to assume you're trolling. I could make an entire thread about the horrible things she has done, and those lyrics wouldn't even rate by her standards! Edit: Wow! You really didn't know that Gnosticism is widely understood to have existed into the 13th century, and that it's the metaphysical core of Freemasonry and Kabbalah? You really have no business debating matters of religion. SMH

And Peter Sellers, the Flagellants were and are considered a heresy by the Catholic Church. Shall I consider that you are deliberately smearing the Church or that you actually know so little about it that you did not know something that basic? Either way, you just invalidated all of your anti-religious arguments.
 
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Human beings, in the final analysis, create nothing. If atheism is correct, then we are biomass that is neither created nor destroyed, but simply rots into entropy, and ideas are merely electrochemical impulses in the nervous system, making us just slightly more complex animals. If, on the other hand, the Roman Catholic faith is correct, then God created and creates everything, and we are merely cooperating, if we so choose, with plans already in the Mind of God. Either way, the myth of human creativity is a Gnostic superstition.
So the Taj Mahal is illusion? The Magna Carta was a waste? Galileo didn't exist? The Moon landing was fake? Just as I see,I can also THINK. Is that illusion? So blind matter just forms itself into tall buildings? The Creative MAN it Gods greatest creation. All else is dross. Will and Idea are necessary in an Objective world.
 
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And the actual #46 would be to ban such cults as Scientology and Hasidism.

I knew my post would be unpopular, but have you, even for a moment, stopped to realize that an ad hominem attack is not a refutation? I will not do so, but suppose, hypothetically, that I called my critics "degenerates"... would that prove me correct? Of course not. So how does saying "He's crazy" make it true? Why don't you consider the 46 ideas one by one and see what elements of them might be beneficial or feasible? I am neither God nor the Pope, so I make no claim of infallibility, but I don't see any serious attempts to discuss issues, but rather mere juvenile shock jock talk and unproven insults. If my ideas are so crazy, explain why they're crazy. I explained why I'm so hardline. Explain your quasi-religious devotion to post-1960's ultra-permissiveness and how it ultimately is for the greater good. You can't, so you just insult me, high five each other (figuratively) and listen to an echo chamber of how assuredly smart and sane you are. 300 years ago, my ideas would have been considered normal and yours mad and immoral. Prove that cultural norms are right now and were wrong then. I'm quite accustomed to statements like "gtfo" and being called a "homophobic a**hat", and it doesn't bother me, because statements like that are just plain stupid.
I read them one by one, I will not consider even one of them, and stay with my verdict of you being batshit crazy. The one good thing left in this country despite the Trump drama is that even the trumpcult - as of today - considers you just the same batshit crazy and completely degenerate.
Now I do realize that with every day of Trump in office their (trumpcult) borders of acceptable stupidity is decreasing, then accepting more and more suppression and loss of liberty, but at least today the majority of ALL is still united in thinking you are one unimportant populist who loves to bathe in the opposition you get, with nothing to show for when it comes to actual accomplishments in your life. Big talk, no walk.
 

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