Active Shooter Situation.

Active shooter=what would you do?

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Devil505

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More on the current Hogans Alley training for DOJ at Qunatico and SA training.


DEA is the real "Elite" LEA!!! lol (FBI are just glorified accountants)
Everyone in federal state and local LEA's hate the FBI because of their attitude. (goes back to Hoover)
 
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Lately, I find myself thinking about situations that used to never even cross my mind. For instance, when I'm out shopping, going to the movies, restaurants, etc. I sometimes wonder if there could be a crazy person with a gun nearby. And if they might decide to use their gun. I don't know what I'd do in that situation.
What would you folks do if you found yourself in an active shooting situation?
We're taught to . . .

Run
Hide
Fight


The situation I'd find myself in and who is with me would determine what order I'd try to do those in . . .
 
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Now Rev. you are far too transparent and not 1/2 as clever as you think you are.

In my posts #103 and #104 I asked questions, clarification of your statement/positions
In your post #106 you do not quote any of my posts you just type "@Hollywood No." purposely making it unclear as to what exactly you are saying no to.

I presented no argument to any position/statement of yours whatsoever. I asked questions and for clarification OF your statements & position.
@Rev. Hellh0und

Well? Suddenly nothing to say?
 

Babba

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Whoa ... 100% agreement and that's rare among conservatives.
I think you've put your finger on the most important problem being that culture that celebrates violence ... but we bowed to the liberals on this about forty years ago and ended censorship, and it would be technically impossible to bring it back today... not even the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party is having much success with that.
(I've been making my own modest contribution to bringing about change in Cuba via digital technology, so it cuts two ways.)

It's not just the celebration
of violence, but the amoral celebration of depraved violence and depravity in general that is the problem, I think. But how to deal with it? (As a side notel: real and faked videos of thermal imaging cameras on board AC130s hosing down jihadis with 30mm cannon shells are very popular with our side, I reckon.. or the males of our side.)
Is the culture in this country that much different than other developed countries? In what ways, exactly, do you think we celebrate violence and are exposed to more violence than other countries?
 
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You glorify hammering nails, everyone wants to see a hammer.






I've tried, they won't even acknowledge it. see my 6 threads started on labor day shootings, not a single person of leftist persuasion partook. Its as if they dont.... care.
The problem is, Trump has mesmerized them. They only focus on him. And they delight in doing so, because he fulfills every one of their beliefs (we would say, 'prejudices') about conservatives, in spades. And they can simply do linear interpolation to the people who voted for him. It's as if the Democrats had nominated a cominbation of that mystic Californian lady Williamson and Omar and AOC and had won. With a target like that to shoot at, why pay attention to a few powerless, irrelevant conservatives posting on obscure forums (apologies to mods here, but ... true is true.) Why should they bother with us?

Also: despite being a liberal democracy, the US has few alternatives for its citizens to even raise what might be good ideas as a proposed practical change of the laws. You can write a letter to your Congress-critter, you can write a letter to the editor ... and that's about it, unless you want to become really active in your party, and even then, your views won't count for much unless you're part of the Donor Class. I've had some ideas about how to change that a bit, to encourage active citizen participation in the framing of legislation, but, like you, they fall into the great ocean of indifference and vanish without even making a wave.

Nonetheless ... never give up. I forget whether or not I've posted my personal example of why you should NEVER give up -- it involves the name 'Jana Ryslinkova' -- but if I haven't, I will, at some point.
 
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Is the culture in this country that much different than other developed countries? In what ways, exactly, do you think we celebrate aviolence and are exposed to more violence than other countries?
A good question. After all , Hollywood rules the world -- I'll bet Osama bin Laden relaxed by watching pirated Hollywood films in his haven -- so why is, say, British culture so different from American? I tutor British kids, having lived here for donkeys' years, and young British males are just as fascinated by guns and violence as young Americans. Yet mass killings are very very rare here -- you only get them from Irish Freedom Fighters and devotees of the Religion of Peace. Maybe it's that you can't get your hands on a gun here easily, unless you're a farmer or a City stockbroker who hunts grouse for relaxation, or VERY persistent and not a nutter. But I think --- this is just subjective now -- that there is something else.

I'm not sure what it is. There must be academic studies of how 'youth culture' varies from country to country but I've not accessed them. Maybe it's this: when you see a YouTube video of an AC130 firing 105 rounds and 30 mm cannon rounds into a bunch of jihadis --or a wedding party but let's not go there -- it's always, definitely, Americans who are doing it. Even if they British are in Afghanistan and Iraq, even if the Canadians are there ... and they are, and both of them are bloody good, see their sniper shots for example, reaching out and touching someone over some insanely-impossible distance -- they are THERE because the Americans are there.

And foul mysoginistic rap music is American. And also most of the extreme disgusting videos of people doing things that ought to make ordinary people vomit -- they're American as well. (It used to be the British who engaged in various refined and elegant perversions, and also the French -- L'histoire d'O -- but now -- it's usually stuff from the world's greatest democracy.) Two or three years after 9/11, an American college student decided to drop out and join the Army and ended up in Iraq. His name was Corby Buzzell, or something like that, and he wrote a very interesting book about his experiences there. The one that stuck in my mind was the answer to the question he put to his platoon's Iraqi interpreter in Kirkuk: He asked this fellow, "What is the biggest change in your life since we overthrew Saddam Hussein for you?" The answer: "Now we can get pornography!" That says it all, as far as I'm concerned, which is why I've sent money to Major Gabbard, despite being a hard-hearted old reactionary Republican dinosaur.
 

Devil505

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A good question. After all , Hollywood rules the world -- I'll bet Osama bin Laden relaxed by watching pirated Hollywood films in his haven -- so why is, say, British culture so different from American? I tutor British kids, having lived here for donkeys' years, and young British males are just as fascinated by guns and violence as young Americans. Yet mass killings are very very rare here -- you only get them from Irish Freedom Fighters and devotees of the Religion of Peace. Maybe it's that you can't get your hands on a gun here easily, unless you're a farmer or a City stockbroker who hunts grouse for relaxation, or VERY persistent and not a nutter. But I think --- this is just subjective now -- that there is something else.

I'm not sure what it is. There must be academic studies of how 'youth culture' varies from country to country but I've not accessed them. Maybe it's this: when you see a YouTube video of an AC130 firing 105 rounds and 30 mm cannon rounds into a bunch of jihadis --or a wedding party but let's not go there -- it's always, definitely, Americans who are doing it. Even if they British are in Afghanistan and Iraq, even if the Canadians are there ... and they are, and both of them are bloody good, see their sniper shots for example, reaching out and touching someone over some insanely-impossible distance -- they are THERE because the Americans are there.

And foul mysoginistic rap music is American. And also most of the extreme disgusting videos of people doing things that ought to make ordinary people vomit -- they're American as well. (It used to be the British who engaged in various refined and elegant perversions, and also the French -- L'histoire d'O -- but now -- it's usually stuff from the world's greatest democracy.) Two or three years after 9/11, an American college student decided to drop out and join the Army and ended up in Iraq. His name was Corby Buzzell, or something like that, and he wrote a very interesting book about his experiences there. The one that stuck in my mind was the answer to the question he put to his platoon's Iraqi interpreter in Kirkuk: He asked this fellow, "What is the biggest change in your life since we overthrew Saddam Hussein for you?" The answer: "Now we can get pornography!" That says it all, as far as I'm concerned, which is why I've sent money to Major Gabbard, despite being a hard-hearted old reactionary Republican dinosaur.
We are very "Gun-Happy" culture that celebrates them as part and parcel of our Go West cowboy society.
When I was a kid in the 1950's..every boy wanted a sixgun and holster set for X-mass and even today guns play a major role in our TV and movies.

We sell war weapons in stores like they were candy and are amazed and horrified when we kill each other with them.
Hollywood glorifies guns and rarely shows the results of that they can do to a human body.
 

Rev. Hellh0und

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More on the current Hogans Alley training for DOJ at Qunatico and SA training.


DEA is the real "Elite" LEA!!! lol (FBI are just glorified accountants)
Everyone in federal state and local LEA's hate the FBI because of their attitude. (goes back to Hoover)


DEA were the jack boots in the war on drugs. often used themselves. I have no idea about you of course... The DEA should be disbanded and all non violent drug offenders released