Alabama state Senate passes near total abortion ban in direct challenge to Roe v. Wade

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There is already a thread on this topic.

How many threads you gonna start on this topic?

Us informed folks already know.

Alabama has proposed a bill the makes the Left sh*t ....
 
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News was reporting earlier that now women in Alabama will be FORCED to carry their baby to term like it or not. That also includes whether it was the product of rape or incest as that would make no difference there.
Since a majority of women who want an abortion don't want their babies in the first place, it's not unreasonable to think that many of them will turn the newborn's over to the state leaving it in the hands of the state to raise the child, which translates into more tax dollars needed since the child will need to be fed, clothed, educated, medical & dental and supervision, etc. If I were the democrats, I wouldn't challenge the law and instead leave it as it is and watch Alabama's tax go through the ceiling especially as time goes on and the numbers of newborns swell to higher proportions.
 
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Since a majority of women who want an abortion don't want their babies in the first place, it's not unreasonable to think that many of them will turn the newborn's over to the state leaving it in the hands of the state to raise the child, which translates into more tax dollars needed since the child will need to be fed, clothed, educated, medical & dental and supervision, etc. If I were the democrats, I wouldn't challenge the law and instead leave it as it is and watch Alabama's tax go through the ceiling especially as time goes on and the numbers of newborns swell to higher proportions.
At least the women wouldn't be killing their own babies. To me that's a win.

Also, if people can't kill their babies, it will make the men and women think twice about having promiscuous sex.
 
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On the one hand, this will be struck down immediately at the district court level and the Supreme Court likely will not interfere with that, at least not now.

On the other hand, to have this law stand would be a political coup for Democrats like nothing else. The raw backlash would be intense, sustained and nationwide, at the same time Republicans would lose some support (a combination of complacent euphoria and reticence among those who felt they went too far).

It is clear in all respects: While abortion remains a 50-50 issue in general, denying it to rape victims is not something people want. It's a broad overreach.
On the one hand, this will be struck down immediately at the district court level and the Supreme Court likely will not interfere with that, at least not now.

On the other hand, to have this law stand would be a political coup for Democrats like nothing else. The raw backlash would be intense, sustained and nationwide, at the same time Republicans would lose some support (a combination of complacent euphoria and reticence among those who felt they went too far).

It is clear in all respects: While abortion remains a 50-50 issue in general, denying it to rape victims is not something people want. It's a broad overreach.
Why do you think they won't hear it?

Roberts has a need to take on big cases and they only need four votes to accept one.
 
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At least the women wouldn't be killing their own babies. To me that's a win.

Also, if people can't kill their babies, it will make the men and women think twice about having promiscuous sex.
You would think that it would, but then again, especially with teens and those who don't believe in birth control, to them they don't care. Look at it this way, if you live in the state of Alabama and don't mind paying higher taxes (which will only grow over time) then it shouldn't be an issue of having a several thousand (statistics say approximately 6,000 abortions yearly) babies dumped into the states hands every year, multiply that times ten years and you have an idea what the cost would be to the taxpayer.
 
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You would think that it would, but then again, especially with teens and those who don't believe in birth control, to them they don't care. Look at it this way, if you live in the state of Alabama and don't mind paying higher taxes (which will only grow over time) then it shouldn't be an issue of having a several thousand (statistics say approximately 6,000 abortions yearly) babies dumped into the states hands every year, multiply that times ten years and you have an idea what the cost would be to the taxpayer.
Most of those babies will be cared for by the mothers or the parents families.

And it's the parent's responsibility to feed, clothe and raise the baby. Not the govt's job like the Left believes.
 

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Why do you think they won't hear it?

Roberts has a need to take on big cases and they only need four votes to accept one.
They will take one of the heartbeat laws, probably, one of the more cleverly written ones that at least attempts to set a standard that pretends to respect the principles established in Roe. No district court will uphold this law, and likely no appeals court will either.
 

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Most of those babies will be cared for by the mothers or the parents families.

And it's the parent's responsibility to feed, clothe and raise the baby. Not the govt's job like the Left believes.
You are going to have to choose. If you want to end Roe, fine, but any position of ending Roe and not fundamentally expanding public support for the family will not be sustainable in virtually any political theatre. Moreover, lots of pro-Life groups, chiefly the Catholic Church, will be opposed to anyone who would try to end Roe without looking out for those affected.