American Indian Nathan Phillips: American Hero

Macduff

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From October 1972 to February 1973, he was classified as an anti-tank missileman, a kind of infantryman, Carlock said. He then became a refrigerator technician for the majority of his service.
That's not Recon or a Ranger. And he still didn't go to Vietnam. So I have no idea what you think your cut and paste from Stars And Stripes was supposed to prove.
 
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plus, he could have gone to Army Ranger school.
What's gets me is a fellow veteran obtained his military discharge records and made it public. Plus that same guy has been publicly slandering him.
That's one seriously fucked up move. Phillips should sue his ass.
He "could have" been the Queen of England, but that didn't happen either.
 
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Macduff

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plus, he could have gone to Army Ranger school.
What's gets me is a fellow veteran obtained his military discharge records and made it public. Plus that same guy has been publicly slandering him.
That's one seriously fucked up move. Phillips should sue his ass.
Vets like Don Shipley expose stolen valor all the time. Frauds deserve to be exposed.
 
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We're waiting for your apology troll. From the Stars and Stripes

Nathan Phillips, Native American in standoff with teens, faces scrutiny of his military past

The Native American activist, seen beating a drum Friday as teens from Covington High School in Kentucky surrounded and mocked him, has referred to himself as a “Vietnam-times” veteran. He described in interviews getting spit on and called a baby killer by a “hippie girl,” and told the Detroit Free Press on Saturday that “I’m a Marine Corps veteran and I know what that mob mentality can be like.”

The sight of him surrounded by a group of teens wearing baseball hats emblazoned with President Donald Trump’s “Make America Great Again” campaign slogan and the shifting narratives about the incident afterward have prompted political outcry from conservatives and liberals alike.

The incident also has led to scrutiny of Phillips’ service record after an organization representing him, the Lakota People’s Law Project, described him as a Vietnam veteran in a news release and numerous media reports identified him as one afterward. Several, including The Washington Post, have issued corrections since.

In reality, Phillips served from June 1972 to May 1976 in the Marine Corps Reserve, a service spokeswoman, Yvonne Carlock, said Wednesday. He did not deploy and left the service as a private after disciplinary issues. From October 1972 to February 1973, he was classified as an anti-tank missileman, a kind of infantryman, Carlock said. He then became a refrigerator technician for the majority of his service.

Daniel Paul Nelson, a leader in the Lakota People’s Law Project, said in an interview that his group made the error and Phillips himself never told it that he served in Vietnam. The group, Nelson said, “trusted what we had seen” in previous stories about Phillips, some of which also referred to him erroneously as a Vietnam veteran.

“We were trying to do the advocacy work that we do,” Nelson said.

Phillips, who turns 64 next month, is not old enough to have deployed to Vietnam as a Marine infantryman, prompting accusations that he was lying about his service.

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The military typically will provide basic details about an individual’s military service within a day, but the situation with Phillips was complicated because he enlisted under another name associated with a family that raised him, Nelson said. He provided Phillips’ full Social Security number to The Washington Post with Phillips’s permission to help clear up the confusion.

On Tuesday night, Donald Shipley, a Navy SEAL veteran who investigates military service records, published a video in which he showed excerpts of Phillips’ service record.

“This is all going into that Native American guy that everybody keeps labeling as a Vietnam vet, and he is not,” Shipley said in the video. “A lot of these news outlets are using that claim of ‘Vietnam vet’ to kind of beef that story up and make it look even worse.”

Shipley, who did not respond to an interview request Wednesday, noted that Philips listed under another name and spent the majority of his time in the military as a refrigerator technician. He questioned how that squares with a April 2018 report by Vogue magazine in which Phillips is quoted saying that he was a “recon ranger,” a position that does not exist in the military.

“I have a relative here who said he’d lead the way and scout ahead for us,” Phillips said in the story, which describes a protest at the Standing Rock Sioux Reservation in North Dakota. “You know, I’m from Vietnam times. I’m what they call a recon ranger. That was my role. So I thank you for taking that point position for me.”

Nelson said that Phillips’ comments at Standing Rock were taken out of context, and that Phillips actually was referring to the work they were doing at the time on the reservation.

In other interviews, Phillips consistently has described being a veteran of “Vietnam times.”
You think all the partisan hacks that denigrated Phillips here, will apologize? Nah, me neither.
 
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