Arctic Warming Will Likely Trigger Mid-Latitude Mega-Droughts

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That's the nice thing with their cult, you just make up whatever anti-science nonsense that you want, and if anyone disagrees you accuse them of being anti-science, a "denier" and like the blasphemers of days gone, they must be silenced if not killed for their heresy.
it would be a good thing if the anti science crowd, that is to say, the anti vaxxers, the climate change deniers, the young earth creationists, the flat earthers, the chemtrails conspiracy theorists, and the like could be silenced.

But they do have that First Amendment right to spout nonsense, and they can be entertaining at times
 
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You said that the Global temperature had risen by one degree since the beginning of the industrial revolution. You would have to know the Global temperature during the end of the 19th century to make that claim.

I guess they didn't have the internet to publish and distribute hurricane data in past centuries. Again, you are offering flood data as proof of drought?
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Global temperatures in 2018 were 1.5 degrees Fahrenheit (0.83 degrees Celsius) warmer than the 1951 to 1980 mean, according to scientists at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York. Globally, 2018's temperatures rank behind those of 2016, 2017 and 2015. The past five years are, collectively, the warmest years in the modern record.

"2018 is yet again an extremely warm year on top of a long-term global warming trend," said GISS Director Gavin Schmidt.

Since the 1880s, the average global surface temperature has risen about 2 degrees Fahrenheit (1 degree Celsius). This warming has been driven in large part by increased emissions into the atmosphere of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases caused by human activities, according to Schmidt.

LeRoy: As you can see, temperatures have actually risen by a degree Celsius since the end of the 19th century, not since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, as I said. They were pretty stable, though, from the 1770s to the 1880's, so my statement still stands, as a general truth.

It is BEYOND STUPID to claim that we would need to know the temperatures to within a FRACTION of a degree in the late 19th century to be able to say that the global average temperature has risen by about 1 degree Celsius. Say it has risen (just as an example) from 20 degrees Celsius to 21 degrees Celsius. WHY on EARTH would we need to know that it was, say, 20.00001 instead of 19.99994 degrees???

What the models are telling us------and you quite obviously just have a general disbelief in computer models, as a dedicated armchair climatologist------is that arid regions will become MORE arid, but that when precipitation DOES come, it will be much more intense. Flash floods, in other words, is what desert regions can expect. Coastal regions can expect that hurricanes will make landfall and then just SIT there, as Hurricane Harvey did.
 
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it would be a good thing if the anti science crowd, that is to say, the anti vaxxers, the climate change deniers, the young earth creationists, the flat earthers, the chemtrails conspiracy theorists, and the like could be silenced.

But they do have that First Amendment right to spout nonsense, and they can be entertaining at times
That's not the context in any sense.

I meant the climate models are flat earth models.
 
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That's not the context in any sense.

I meant the climate models are flat earth models.
I know what you meant.
And I meant that the people who deny the findings of modern science are all cut from the same cloth, regardless of which scientific theories they try to dispute without finding any new facts.
 
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Global temperatures in 2018 were 1.5 degrees Fahrenheit (0.83 degrees Celsius) warmer than the 1951 to 1980 mean, according to scientists at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York. Globally, 2018's temperatures rank behind those of 2016, 2017 and 2015. The past five years are, collectively, the warmest years in the modern record.

"2018 is yet again an extremely warm year on top of a long-term global warming trend," said GISS Director Gavin Schmidt.

Since the 1880s, the average global surface temperature has risen about 2 degrees Fahrenheit (1 degree Celsius). This warming has been driven in large part by increased emissions into the atmosphere of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases caused by human activities, according to Schmidt.

LeRoy: As you can see, temperatures have actually risen by a degree Celsius since the end of the 19th century, not since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, as I said. They were pretty stable, though, from the 1770s to the 1880's, so my statement still stands, as a general truth.

It is BEYOND STUPID to claim that we would need to know the temperatures to within a FRACTION of a degree in the late 19th century to be able to say that the global average temperature has risen by about 1 degree Celsius. Say it has risen (just as an example) from 20 degrees Celsius to 21 degrees Celsius. WHY on EARTH would we need to know that it was, say, 20.00001 instead of 19.99994 degrees???

What the models are telling us------and you quite obviously just have a general disbelief in computer models, as a dedicated armchair climatologist------is that arid regions will become MORE arid, but that when precipitation DOES come, it will be much more intense. Flash floods, in other words, is what desert regions can expect. Coastal regions can expect that hurricanes will make landfall and then just SIT there, as Hurricane Harvey did.
To make that claim you have to know the Global temperature in the 1880s to an accuracy of a fraction of a degree to have high confidence. With the means and methods available at the time it would be more accurate to say that it is about a degree higher, plus or minus a degree or two.
 
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Does it take an Einstein to figure out there is a connection in the interests with Russia (USSR cut down) and certain interests that control the Republican Party about global warming disinformation? Oligarchs are oligarchs and saps and saps.
 
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Fossil fuel corporate shills, trying to con the ignorant and gullible, how is that working with the Pentagon and NASA, #Trumpcult?
Doesn't work well when the climate information comes from military and commercial sources, even though the deniers claim it comes from tree huggers who don't have two dimes to rub together. What do you expect from their kind? Truth means nothing to such people.
 
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Fossil fuel corporate shills, trying to con the ignorant and gullible, how is that working with the Pentagon and NASA, #Trumpcult?

It seems to work pretty well, as a lot of people are being fooled, lulled into thinking that it's all a hoax and isn't going to come back to bite us.
 

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