Assange Arrested

highway234

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You know, I can't help you if you think that Russian did not interfere with our election when they clearly did. Maybe you forgot about those 13 Russian's Mueller indicted or he is just a big fat liar too? So you tell me, who is the government is telling the "truth"?

And still making excuses for Assange? Even though he is a nut job and raped women?

And there is this




Just before the stroke of midnight on September 20, 2016, at the height of last year’s presidential election, the WikiLeaks Twitter account sent a private direct message to Donald Trump Jr., the Republican nominee’s oldest son and campaign surrogate. “A PAC run anti-Trump site putintrump.org is about to launch,” WikiLeaks wrote. “The PAC is a recycled pro-Iraq war PAC. We have guessed the password. It is ‘putintrump.’ See ‘About’ for who is behind it. Any comments?” (The site, which has since become a joint project with Mother Jones, was founded by Rob Glaser, a tech entrepreneur, and was funded by Progress for USA Political Action Committee.)

The next morning, about 12 hours later, Trump Jr. responded to WikiLeaks. “Off the record I don’t know who that is, but I’ll ask around,” he wrote on September 21, 2016. “Thanks.”
The messages, obtained by The Atlantic, were also turned over by Trump Jr.’s lawyers to congressional investigators. They are part of a long—and largely one-sided—correspondence between WikiLeaks and the president’s son that continued until at least July 2017. The messages show WikiLeaks, a radical transparency organization that the American intelligence community believes was chosen by the Russian government to disseminate the information it had hacked, actively soliciting Trump Jr.’s cooperation. WikiLeaks made a series of increasingly bold requests, including asking for Trump’s tax returns, urging the Trump campaign on Election Day to reject the results of the election as rigged, and requesting that the president-elect tell Australia to appoint Julian Assange ambassador to the United States.

“Over the last several months, we have worked cooperatively with each of the committees and have voluntarily turned over thousands of documents in response to their requests,” said Alan Futerfas, an attorney for Donald Trump Jr. “Putting aside the question as to why or by whom such documents, provided to Congress under promises of confidentiality, have been selectively leaked, we can say with confidence that we have no concerns about these documents and any questions raised about them have been easily answered in the appropriate forum.” WikiLeaks did not respond to requests for comment.

The Secret Correspondence Between Donald Trump Jr. and WikiLeaks

So are those "messages" fake as well?
If any of this is a crime, then they should press charges.

You're misunderstanding something here. The question isn't whether Russia contacted Trump. We know Trump knows Russians. He's always known Russians, since Art of the Deal. The question is whether the people pretending to care about Russian interference actually do, or if it's just a pretext.

Just like the question was never, did Saddam have WMDs. The question was always, does it matter.

In both cases, it doesn't, except as an excuse for war, and in this case, for adopting a more belligerent stance toward Russia and rounding up anti-war activists. These people don't care if the elections are meddled with. They let corporations, foreign governments, and big money meddle with the elections all the time.
 

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Notice your buddy there talking about how Russians can all die?

And you still really think this isn't war propaganda you're pushing? You're practically drowning in toxic, eliminationist hatred.
 

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If any of this is a crime, then they should press charges.

You're misunderstanding something here. The question isn't whether Russia contacted Trump. We know Trump knows Russians. He's always known Russians, since Art of the Deal. The question is whether the people pretending to care about Russian interference actually do, or if it's just a pretext.

Just like the question was never, did Saddam have WMDs. The question was always, does it matter.

In both cases, it doesn't, except as an excuse for war, and in this case, for adopting a more belligerent stance toward Russia and rounding up anti-war activists. These people don't care if the elections are meddled with. They let corporations, foreign governments, and big money meddle with the elections all the time.
Again, I can't help you if you think Russia interfering in our election is not a "thing"

Because it is.

And a lot of people do care about that.

And if you are running for President, any sane candidate would immediately report to the FBI than Russians and Wikileaks have reached out to you.

But he did not do that. Instead, he encouraged Wikileaks over and over again. And Don Jr. took a meeting with them and had corresponded with Wikileaks

Imagine if Obama had done that.

And I really don't think we are going to be going to War with Russia unless they threaten to nuke us.
 

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And I really don't think we are going to be going to War with Russia unless they threaten to nuke us.
Hope you're right. If we don't, frankly, it'll be no thanks to you and your belligerent allies on this thread. The eliminationist hatred and irrational fear are palpable, just as they were in '03.
 

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Hope you're right. If we don't, frankly, it'll be no thanks to you and your belligerent allies on this thread. The eliminationist hatred and irrational fear are palpable, just as they were in '03.
How in the world am I being belligerent just because I actually believe our IA agency when it comes to Russia? And think it is really fucked up that nobody in the Trump administration bothered to report their contacts with Russia to the FBI. Like Flynn, Sessions, Jared and Don Jr.

And I'm not seeing any kind of irrational fear either.
 

highway234

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How in the world am I being belligerent just because I actually believe our IA agency when it comes to Russia? And think it is really fucked up that nobody in the Trump administration bothered to report their contacts with Russia to the FBI. Like Flynn, Sessions, Jared and Don Jr.

And I'm not seeing any kind of irrational fear either.
There are several different components to war propaganda. One of them is unquestioning acceptance of government pronouncements. You're doing that one. Panzareta is doing the gaslighting, and Puzzle whoever is doing the eliminationist hatred and fear.
 

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