At least some people on the right aren't in denial and lying to themselves about our liar in chief.....

Blueneck

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How is the country doing well?

We are adding $2T to the debt every year. We are breaking treaties with long time allies left and right. Nations that used to look to us for answers are now looking to China or Russia. We are about to be kicked out of Iraq. As a people we have never been more divided. Outside of your guns (which the recent Dem, Obama also did not confiscate) and your 401k, the country is not doing well by any measure.
I watched part of the Senate Mnuchin hearing on the budget today. Every Republican on the panel spent the entire time crowing at the absolute Nirvana Trump has created. It was just one big long campaign commercial. Democrats did a bit of fact checking in their questions about the effect of the tax cuts but they were quite civil to Mnuchin considering what a liar he is. He's still claiming the tax cuts will pay for themselves.
 
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The most divisive person this country has ever seen resides in the WH.

It's perfectly normal to disparage a politician who you oppose. It's gone on since the dawn of the republic. Pretending our opposition to Trump is divisive is weird.
I have never seen a politician disparage someone who opposes him by calling him childish names like pencil neck and Mini Mike and mock a woman’s looks.
 
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How would someone describe a liar, a cheater, an adulterer, a narcissist, a con artist, someone who is greed and gluttonous, someone who is vengeful and pretty much covers the gamut of things that are NOT virtuous?

Trump makes it all about Trump or haven't you noticed?

People will focus on the candidates, but that also need to focus on unifying to do something better for America than the current POTUS and those who enable him.

I disagree. I say that Democrats would be better off to tune Trump out for a little bit and focus on the primaries. To say that the single focus is to defeat Trump and voters need to “vote blue no matter who” waters down the process. The primaries serve a few purposes and it is a tactical error for democrats to not fully engage and let talk of Trump permeate the whole process.
 
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Yep, and you read just like your Messiah Trump. Shallow and bereft of ideas, so you lash out irrationally at those who point out facts. Sorry, but your trolling, flaming, and alt-truths do not work with me. Trump's will lose in November. I look forward to the tears.
Really? Tariffs, "Remain in Mexico," forcing Mexico to turn back caravans, and so forth. Politicians have been fine with the status quo. Trump has introduced new approaches that are reaping results. Oh and btw, Trump will win in November.
 
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That's not what happened.


Of course it is. And btw, you do know that almost anyone can alter information on Wikileaks, right?

From your link:

In 2013, the United States Internal Revenue Service (IRS) revealed that it had selected political groups applying for tax-exempt status for intensive scrutiny based on their names or political themes. This led to wide condemnation of the agency and triggered several investigations, including a Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) criminal probe ordered by United States Attorney General Eric Holder.

Initial reports described the selections as nearly exclusively of conservative groups with terms such as "Tea Party" in their names. According to Republican lawmakers, liberal-leaning groups and the Occupy movement had also triggered additional scrutiny, but at a lower rate than conservative groups. The Republican majority on the House Oversight Committee issued a report, which concluded that although some liberal groups were selected for additional review, the scrutiny that these groups received did not amount to targeting when compared to the greater scrutiny received by conservative groups.
 
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Of course it is. And btw, you do know that almost anyone can alter information on Wikileaks, right?

From your link:

In 2013, the United States Internal Revenue Service (IRS) revealed that it had selected political groups applying for tax-exempt status for intensive scrutiny based on their names or political themes. This led to wide condemnation of the agency and triggered several investigations, including a Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) criminal probe ordered by United States Attorney General Eric Holder.

Initial reports described the selections as nearly exclusively of conservative groups with terms such as "Tea Party" in their names. According to Republican lawmakers, liberal-leaning groups and the Occupy movement had also triggered additional scrutiny, but at a lower rate than conservative groups. The Republican majority on the House Oversight Committee issued a report, which concluded that although some liberal groups were selected for additional review, the scrutiny that these groups received did not amount to targeting when compared to the greater scrutiny received by conservative groups.
From @Blueneck's link, this is not so selective as you want it to be.
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In late September 2017, an exhaustive report by the Treasury Department's Inspector General found that from 2004 to 2013, the IRS used both conservative and liberal keywords to choose targets for further scrutiny.[2][3]