Bernie Sanders leads the pack in new California poll

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Well, you will be forced to vote, and the ballots will be looked at to see if you voted the correct way.
And everyone will be required to have a "Telescreen". They have 'em in all AIRPORTS right now.
 

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It is the nordic countries bernie refers to.
That's an often voiced opinion and a fair one to put forward here, but Nordic countries had two things going for them.

(1) They were largely homogeneous, as the population shifts to a multicultural population the people become more selfish and the collective approach no longer works. The Nordic countries are in real trouble. This has nothing to do with race. It has to do with people that do not share a common background, culture, and ideology simply cannot pull off Socialism. Socialism only works in a contained mono cultural setting and even then it can become a horror show. Capitalism rewards a nation when the society of individuals all look out for their own best interests thereby working and striving. That works best in a multicultural setting as variety and differences can be leveraged to improve at a much greater rate. I probably used way too many words to get this point across, but I didn't want anyone confusing this a slam against any race.

(2) They don't provide for their own defense. That allows them to afford their heavy social programs. Those go away as budgets tighten up. Socialist societies fall apart under conflict. Capitalist ones don't.

Sorry... that's how it goes. Socialism in the U.S.A. is a ridiculous dream of failure that will cost so many so much. It can happen, but the results will be an incredibly lowered standard of living for all involved.
 
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LOL Bernie was heaping praise on Venezuela not all that long ago.


And those Nordic countries have small populations and are quite the same racially.
They take in their share of refugees these days, Almost 25% of Swedens population is immigrant, or first generation.

Sweden has over 8% muslim population while the US has 1.1%.
 
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They take in their share of refugees these days, Almost 25% of Swedens population is immigrant, or first generation.

Sweden has over 8% muslim population while the US has 1.1%.

Thus the Swedes will die a slow death. It has already begun. They already have one of the oldest populations in the world.
 
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That's an often voiced opinion and a fair one to put forward here, but Nordic countries had two things going for them.

(1) They were largely homogeneous, as the population shifts to a multicultural population the people become more selfish and the collective approach no longer works. The Nordic countries are in real trouble. This has nothing to do with race. It has to do with people that do not share a common background, culture, and ideology simply cannot pull off Socialism. Socialism only works in a contained mono cultural setting and even then it can become a horror show. Capitalism rewards a nation when the society of individuals all look out for their own best interests thereby working and striving. That works best in a multicultural setting as variety and differences can be leveraged to improve at a much greater rate. I probably used way too many words to get this point across, but I didn't want anyone confusing this a slam against any race.

(2) They don't provide for their own defense. That allows them to afford their heavy social programs. Those go away as budgets tighten up. Socialist societies fall apart under conflict. Capitalist ones don't.

Sorry... that's how it goes. Socialism in the U.S.A. is a ridiculous dream of failure that will cost so many so much. It can happen, but the results will be an incredibly lowered standard of living for all involved.
The Danish monarchy is more than 1,000 years old. if youre waiting for their demise, I wouldnt hold my breath.

Sweden hasnt been in a war for over 200 years, yet every adult male (who is able) is obligated to serve in the military. Their focus is on strong defense - to make it so difficult to invade, and occupy the country that it isnt worth the trouble.

Switzerland also has managed to stay out of wars. Both countries participate in UN peacekeeping missions.
 
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