Biden: Russia Election Interference Wouldn’t Have Happened ‘on My Watch and Barack’s Watch’

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How about these far right sites giving out only part of the quote and taking it out of context?

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Tom Elliott, the owner of Grabien, is the far right nutcase who also worked for Laura Ingraham. nuff said.

Here's the real transcript of what Biden said, giving a far more different meaning than what the OP is implying:

“What bothers me abroad is, look, the idea that we can go it alone with no alliances for the next 20 or 30 years is a disaster,” Biden, the Democratic front-runner to challenge Trump in next year’s general election, told CNN's Chris Cuomo.


“I come out of a generation where we were trying to be the policemen of the world. We can't go in every place. We need allies,” Biden said. “He is absolutely dissing them. He's embracing thugs. He’s embracing Kim Jong Un, who is a thug. He's embracing Putin, who is a flat dictator.”

Biden also accused Trump of “stiff-arming our friends” on the world stage and “threatening NATO,” the decades-old multinational political and military alliance among 29 North American and European countries.

Trump has long expressed skepticism toward NATO, complaining that too many of the pact's other members have failed for years to meet agreed-upon defense spending targets and threatening to pull the U.S. out of the alliance. Prodded by the president, defense spending by NATO members has climbed since 2016, apparently placating some of Trump's concerns.

“Let me put it this way, if he wins re-election, I promise you there will be no NATO in four years or five years,” Biden said, adding that the league is “being crushed” by bad actors in the region including Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“Look at what’s happening with Putin. While Putin is trying to undo our elections, he is undoing elections in Europe. Look at what’s happened in Hungary. Look at what’s happened in Poland. Look what’s happened in Moldova,” Biden said.

“You think that would happen on my watch or [former President Barack Obama’s] watch? You can't answer that, but I promise you it wouldn't have, and it didn't,” he continued.

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And...this has nothing to do with "but but but Obummer didn't do anything to stop Putin in '16! (coming from the folks who still claim there was no election interference in 2016, btw)", because he did.

Fact Check: Did The Obama Administration Respond To Election Interference By Russia?

MARTIN: The assumption in what President Trump is saying is that President Obama took no action after learning that the Russians were interfering in the election. Is that the case?

EWING: No, that's not quite correct. The Obama administration had a great deal of internal debate in real time in 2016 about how to respond - whether they should do so publicly or privately. Ultimately, President Obama did so privately with the Russian president Vladimir Putin. He took him aside at an international summit and said, please stop interfering in our election - to no effect.

And the Obama administration also tried to ask leaders in Congress of both parties to sign a statement condemning these foreign efforts. The Democratic leaders agreed to do so. The Republican speaker, Paul Ryan, apparently thought that he could get there, but the majority leader in the Senate, Mitch McConnell, did not agree to do that. And so, ultimately, there was no public statement until October of 2016, by which time, with the view of history, it may have been too late to do anything about it.
 

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How about these far right sites giving out only part of the quote and taking it out of context?

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  • Overall, we rate Grabien Right biased based on story selection and sourcing that significantly favors the right. We also rate them borderline Questionable for factual reporting due to failed checks and use of sources that have very poor track records with fact checkers.
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Grabien is a right leaning news aggregation website that according to their about page “is the consumer site of the news prep service, Grabien. We post original reports, coverage of the latest in media, national politics, and international news.” They also have a feature where they present live video feeds from news stations. Grabien Inc. is located in New York City. The founder and editor-in-chief is Tom Elliot. Tom Elliott is the former executive producer of conservative pundit, Laura Ingraham’s radio show.
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The website is owned by Grabien Inc., which is presumably owned by Tom Elliott, however this is not disclosed. Grabien is funded through online advertising, donations, as well as a fee based editing service for audio and video clips.


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Tom Elliott, the owner of Grabien, is the far right nutcase who also worked for Laura Ingraham. nuff said.

Here's the real transcript of what Biden said, giving a far more different meaning than what the OP is implying:

“What bothers me abroad is, look, the idea that we can go it alone with no alliances for the next 20 or 30 years is a disaster,” Biden, the Democratic front-runner to challenge Trump in next year’s general election, told CNN's Chris Cuomo.


“I come out of a generation where we were trying to be the policemen of the world. We can't go in every place. We need allies,” Biden said. “He is absolutely dissing them. He's embracing thugs. He’s embracing Kim Jong Un, who is a thug. He's embracing Putin, who is a flat dictator.”

Biden also accused Trump of “stiff-arming our friends” on the world stage and “threatening NATO,” the decades-old multinational political and military alliance among 29 North American and European countries.

Trump has long expressed skepticism toward NATO, complaining that too many of the pact's other members have failed for years to meet agreed-upon defense spending targets and threatening to pull the U.S. out of the alliance. Prodded by the president, defense spending by NATO members has climbed since 2016, apparently placating some of Trump's concerns.

“Let me put it this way, if he wins re-election, I promise you there will be no NATO in four years or five years,” Biden said, adding that the league is “being crushed” by bad actors in the region including Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“Look at what’s happening with Putin. While Putin is trying to undo our elections, he is undoing elections in Europe. Look at what’s happened in Hungary. Look at what’s happened in Poland. Look what’s happened in Moldova,” Biden said.

“You think that would happen on my watch or [former President Barack Obama’s] watch? You can't answer that, but I promise you it wouldn't have, and it didn't,” he continued.

==========================

And...this has nothing to do with "but but but Obummer didn't do anything to stop Putin in '16! (coming from the folks who still claim there was no election interference in 2016, btw)", because he did.

Fact Check: Did The Obama Administration Respond To Election Interference By Russia?

MARTIN: The assumption in what President Trump is saying is that President Obama took no action after learning that the Russians were interfering in the election. Is that the case?

EWING: No, that's not quite correct. The Obama administration had a great deal of internal debate in real time in 2016 about how to respond - whether they should do so publicly or privately. Ultimately, President Obama did so privately with the Russian president Vladimir Putin. He took him aside at an international summit and said, please stop interfering in our election - to no effect.

And the Obama administration also tried to ask leaders in Congress of both parties to sign a statement condemning these foreign efforts. The Democratic leaders agreed to do so. The Republican speaker, Paul Ryan, apparently thought that he could get there, but the majority leader in the Senate, Mitch McConnell, did not agree to do that. And so, ultimately, there was no public statement until October of 2016, by which time, with the view of history, it may have been too late to do anything about it.
Lol! There's a video of him saying this and you need a left wing hack site to tell you what to think.
 
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How about these far right sites giving out only part of the quote and taking it out of context?

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  • Overall, we rate Grabien Right biased based on story selection and sourcing that significantly favors the right. We also rate them borderline Questionable for factual reporting due to failed checks and use of sources that have very poor track records with fact checkers.
Detailed Report
Factual Reporting: MIXED
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Grabien is a right leaning news aggregation website that according to their about page “is the consumer site of the news prep service, Grabien. We post original reports, coverage of the latest in media, national politics, and international news.” They also have a feature where they present live video feeds from news stations. Grabien Inc. is located in New York City. The founder and editor-in-chief is Tom Elliot. Tom Elliott is the former executive producer of conservative pundit, Laura Ingraham’s radio show.
Funded by Owned by
The website is owned by Grabien Inc., which is presumably owned by Tom Elliott, however this is not disclosed. Grabien is funded through online advertising, donations, as well as a fee based editing service for audio and video clips.


=================

Tom Elliott, the owner of Grabien, is the far right nutcase who also worked for Laura Ingraham. nuff said.

Here's the real transcript of what Biden said, giving a far more different meaning than what the OP is implying:

“What bothers me abroad is, look, the idea that we can go it alone with no alliances for the next 20 or 30 years is a disaster,” Biden, the Democratic front-runner to challenge Trump in next year’s general election, told CNN's Chris Cuomo.


“I come out of a generation where we were trying to be the policemen of the world. We can't go in every place. We need allies,” Biden said. “He is absolutely dissing them. He's embracing thugs. He’s embracing Kim Jong Un, who is a thug. He's embracing Putin, who is a flat dictator.”

Biden also accused Trump of “stiff-arming our friends” on the world stage and “threatening NATO,” the decades-old multinational political and military alliance among 29 North American and European countries.

Trump has long expressed skepticism toward NATO, complaining that too many of the pact's other members have failed for years to meet agreed-upon defense spending targets and threatening to pull the U.S. out of the alliance. Prodded by the president, defense spending by NATO members has climbed since 2016, apparently placating some of Trump's concerns.

“Let me put it this way, if he wins re-election, I promise you there will be no NATO in four years or five years,” Biden said, adding that the league is “being crushed” by bad actors in the region including Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“Look at what’s happening with Putin. While Putin is trying to undo our elections, he is undoing elections in Europe. Look at what’s happened in Hungary. Look at what’s happened in Poland. Look what’s happened in Moldova,” Biden said.

“You think that would happen on my watch or [former President Barack Obama’s] watch? You can't answer that, but I promise you it wouldn't have, and it didn't,” he continued.

==========================

And...this has nothing to do with "but but but Obummer didn't do anything to stop Putin in '16! (coming from the folks who still claim there was no election interference in 2016, btw)", because he did.

Fact Check: Did The Obama Administration Respond To Election Interference By Russia?

MARTIN: The assumption in what President Trump is saying is that President Obama took no action after learning that the Russians were interfering in the election. Is that the case?

EWING: No, that's not quite correct. The Obama administration had a great deal of internal debate in real time in 2016 about how to respond - whether they should do so publicly or privately. Ultimately, President Obama did so privately with the Russian president Vladimir Putin. He took him aside at an international summit and said, please stop interfering in our election - to no effect.

And the Obama administration also tried to ask leaders in Congress of both parties to sign a statement condemning these foreign efforts. The Democratic leaders agreed to do so. The Republican speaker, Paul Ryan, apparently thought that he could get there, but the majority leader in the Senate, Mitch McConnell, did not agree to do that. And so, ultimately, there was no public statement until October of 2016, by which time, with the view of history, it may have been too late to do anything about it.
Not sure failures he can blame on Congress, assuming that matters, is the same as success.

The fact is, Obama did NOTHING reasonably likely to protect the integrity of our elections.

And Biden just lied to say he WOULD HAVE.
 

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Not sure failures he can blame on Congress, assuming that matters, is the same as success.

The fact is, Obama did NOTHING reasonably likely to protect the integrity of our elections.

And Biden just lied to say he WOULD HAVE.
He lied more than that. He said that there was no interference while he was in office.
 
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