Buttigieg and South Carolina

Rasselas

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Here's a real controversy. Black homophobia?

As Pete Buttigieg Courts Black Voters, His Sexuality Is a Hurdle for Some

A Monmouth University poll of Democratic likely primary voters in South Carolina released last week found Mr. Buttigieg at 3 percent overall, with just 1 percent support from African Americans.
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But after attracting overwhelmingly white audiences to his campaign events in South Carolina, despite blacks making up a majority of Democrats in the state, the Buttigieg campaign held focus groups here, which suggested “being gay was a barrier” for him, according to an internal campaign memo that surfaced last week. (His campaign said they did not leak the memo.)

Many of the 24 uncommitted black voters in the groups, men and women of ages 25 to 65, were deeply uncomfortable discussing Mr. Buttigieg’s sexual orientation, the memo said, adding that “they felt the mayor was ‘flaunting’ his sexuality by the very mention of having a husband.”
Will this create a rift in the Dem coalition? Buttigieg is in this thing because he’s raised a TON of money from gay people. He’s got other issues: age, an apparently spotty record dealing with police in his own city, and he’s only a mayor. But if the reason he doesn’t turn out to be a viable candidate is because he’s gay and blacks in SC won’t support him on that basis, I see trouble ahead for Dems. Small-d democratic politics is all about coalition building.

More at post #2.
 
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Rasselas

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A few days later, columnist Charles Blow says thia idea--that blacks (and black men in particular) are put off by gay-ness--is a “racist trope.” Blow says in the article that he is both African American and bi-sexual.

He starts by suggesting that African Americans are at a disadvantage, even in their own party:
These people blame black voters when their candidate or their cause fails, even though black voters are the most consistently loyal Democrats in this country.

It is tiresome and disappointing to constantly have to defend yourself not only from people who are openly hostile to you, but also from those who feign friendship but are secretly hostile to you.

It is in the tribal nature of gay culture that white men still center their white maleness as privileged, if one step removed from that enjoyed by their heterosexual brothers, where racial minorities are too often fetishized and thing-ified, seen more as an opportunity than an equal.”
Blow points out that blacks are in general more religious, and religious blacks are less likely to express antipathy for LGBT people than white evangelicals, according to polling data. Of course, Dems have written off evangelical voters pretty much altogether, so they don’t really matter to Democrat politics.

Blacks are an integral part of the Dem coalition. No one gets to be the presidential nominee without substantial if not majority black support. If Buttigieg can’t seriously put himself forward as a more moderate and younger version of Biden’s politics because his husband is a disqualification, that’s a real problem for Dems.

Thoughts?
 
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While Afro-Americans are a key demographic for Democrats, IMO, it really comes down to two main factors: 1) who is actually nominated and 2) voter turnout.

As in the last election, we had what many people considered to be two deplorables. Of the 57% who actually bothered to vote in 2016, most voted along party lines regardless of candidate. I think that's what will happen in 2020. This link is a few months old, but I doubt the numbers have changed dramatically among minorities.


The poll indicates that Trump’s approval is down to 13 percent among African American voters, marking a 5-point drop from two weeks ago. Trump’s approval rating has also dipped 3 points among Asian American voters, now standing at 57 percent.

HarrisX researchers surveyed 1,003 registered voters. The poll has an overall margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.

The survey follows Trump’s series of attacks on a group of freshman House Democrats known as "the Squad," Reps. Ilhan Omar (Minn.), Rashida Tlaib (Mich.), Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (N.Y.) and Ayanna Pressley (Mass.)
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Since most voters are not single issue voters, IF Buttigieg is the nominee, he could sway voters on the issues affecting voters rather than have them concerned about his sex life.

Odds are, it won't be Mayor Pete headlining the Democratic ticket, but he might be the VP so the issue could still come about.
 
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Homophobia is greater in the Black community than the White community. California found that out when they failed to pass same-sex marriage.
 
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Just because one doesn't agree with homosexuality DOES NOT mean they are homophobic.

But, you Leftist keep demonizing Black Americans for this .....

We'll all get to see how well that works out for you.
 
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They claim he has less than 1% support in SC. Thats troubling for sure. Its going to be interesting since early polls are showing various winners in each state. No one dominating yet.
 
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This also probably hurt him further but its now being redacted.

Evan Halper of the Los Angeles Times tweeted Monday morning that a line in his Sunday story on Buttigieg’s campaign, in which the candidate referred to the “failures of the Obama era,” was erroneously reported.

That’s an inaccurate quote — the result of transcribing a noisy recording at a loud rally. His exact words were ‘failures of the old normal,’” Halper wrote.



“I deeply regret the mistake[.] When we make errors we own them. This one really hurts because it went viral,” he continued, going on to post Buttigieg’s full remarks, corrected.

 
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