Buttigieg's "Dougless Plan" to Attack Systemic Racism

Jul 2014
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#91
Derp, you dont even realize that you helped my point.

There are a lack of truck drivers and other skilled labor “middle class” workers.


Meanwhile there is a glut of college graduates and a shortage of college jobs...


Yet you want to give everyone free college....


The logic is dumb as fuck. We should be if we are going to offer free education, do so, in the middle class skilled labor trades. We dont do that


The US is experiencing a widespread worker shortage. Here’s why.



So there are a “lack of truck drivers” and ive shown a lack of a worker pool for these middle class jobs.
Again, I have no idea what you are talking about. Just because there a lot of trucking jobs doesn't not mean that other "trades" are in high demand and go wanting. But with "outdated" jobs like coal mining - yes those people should be trained for other jobs

Grads are in general, having no problem finds jobs these days

I've never advocated for "free college". So not sure what that "point" is supposed to mean.

And I guess you didn't bother to read your own link?

It’s official: The US economy doesn’t have enough workers.

For nearly a year now, the number of open jobs each month has been higher than the number of people looking for work — the first time that’s happened since the Department of Labor began tracking job turnover two decades ago


They are home health care aides, restaurant workers, and hotel staff. The shift is happening because more and more Americans are going to college and taking professional jobs, while working-class baby boomers are retiring en masse.

There’s no better time for working-class Americans to demand better wages, benefits, schedules, and work conditions. It also means immigration reform is more urgent than ever. In order to fill all the open jobs and keep the economy growing, Congress will need to allow more low-skilled immigrants to work. Legally.

So, yeah, those jobs as health care aids and restaurant workers - you know those are shitty paying jobs right?

No wonder people want better-paying jobs. You simply can't live on mim wage jobs these days.
 
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Sep 2014
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#92
Los Angeles does not seem to have that problem in "problem" areas.

But then again the average salary for them is 67K a year.
Average salary for a Cleveland teacher is about 30K at the elementary and middle school level. Not all States are like California. TBH, with the amount of wealth that lives in California, there should not be any poverty problems. Most of the 1%'ers live in California and between the State taxes collected combined with sales and property tax...your schools should be funded well. I am sure East LA has its problems just like any other. Poverty and violence goes hand in hand....every where.

Imagine 20 killings near your child's school every year. That's the reality in part of L.A.
Campus Threats, Arrests Increase During 2017-2018 LA School Year

After reading a few of these articles about LA schools, I am thinking there are not too many teachers signing up for this at 57K a year. Do they live in their cars like the professionals in Silicon Valley?
 
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Jun 2014
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Cleveland, Ohio
#93
Is middle class privilege ? A communist system may be to your liking. Equality for all. Except the rulers and administrators.
Communism is a form of government. Socialism is a form of economy.

Democratic socialism is not only possible, it exists today in this country. Admittedly, I want much more socialism and likewise higher taxes, but I certainly do not want a less democratic country.
 
Jun 2014
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Cleveland, Ohio
#94
You survived a stroke? Damn....


Not sure of why you felt the need to tell me this or how it relates....

What you describe is self motivation.... not a government handout that wont help you in the future.....
You are fully entitled to be skeptical, and to demand details as to how any program Buttigieg's proposing would work.

I share your skepticism.

But he is more or less alone in addressing the problems of poor, urban Americans and that's a disgrace.

The needs of the poor and working poor should be the highest priority of ANY Democratic candidate.

What our neighbors trapped in poverty need is opportunies. Maybe bring back WW2-era G.I. Bill benefits.

Maybe bring back the WPA.

Maybe raise the federal minimum wage to $15.

I think Buttigieg's ideas are at least worth a look.

And I have another question. Did Mayor Buttigieg succeed in reducing poverty in his city?
 
Mar 2013
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#95
...legalizing pot will result in the release of a lot of black prisoners.
Well, no. It was still illegal when they did it, and they were properly convicted and sentenced.* Legalization is about future use/buying/selling, not the past; and releasing the prisoners does not require legalization.

* Or, at least, anything improper was not on account of the drugs being illegal to begin with.
 
Mar 2013
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Vulcan, down the street from Darth Vader
#97
I have never received anything in my life that I have not worked my ass off for.
The reality is that most people work their asses off for very little.
Privilege is a buzz word these days to virtue signal. It is a meaningless word.
It is a word that stands in for "family wealth."
 
Jun 2014
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35,368
Cleveland, Ohio
#98
I have never received anything in my life that I have not worked my ass off for. Privilege is a buzz word these days to virtue signal. It is a meaningless word. We do need to break the cycle but it will take buy in from the people we are trying to help. Mayor Pete is just using the same rhetoric that large City Mayors have already tried....and it failed. Why keep doing the same thing over and over? To feel good?
I was orphaned at a very young age and received government "handouts" until I graduated college.

Briefly after I got pregnant, too.

The impact of a government program on big social problems is a complex question. We have geniuses who can design programs with measurably good outcomes.

It's not rocket science.

But it would also cheer me up to hear a Democratic candidate admit the Great Society was a huge failure.
 
Dec 2013
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#99
Nothing can really help these communities until the people that live their try to change themselves as people. Otherwise, its a waste of other people's money, and just another incentive to remain entitled and to keep the status quo.
Wow. Oversexed, diseased, animalistic criminals, and now you want to add to that that they are unmotivated, lazy mooches!

I think you’ve covered every single racist trope in the book!
 
Sep 2014
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USA
I was orphaned at a very young age and received government "handouts" until I graduated college.

Briefly after I got pregnant, too.

The impact of a government program on big social problems is a complex question. We have geniuses who can design programs with measurably good outcomes.

It's not rocket science.

But it would also cheer me up to hear a Democratic candidate admit the Great Society was a huge failure.
You were a small vulnerable child. This is what safety nets are meant for. I don't, do we really have geniuses as politicians anymore? We have seen our politicians waste so much money for poor returns that it is hard to trust whether their programs work or are we just throwing money away. At the bare basic, we need to build trust again and just love each other as humans. That goes a long way.
 

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