California turning Liberals into Republicans on one issue (Mandatory Vaccinations)

HayJenn

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I can see the idea of mandatory vaccinations being a deal breaker issue for some.

Interesting how it is "my body my choice" unless it's "vaccine companies made deals with government for liability protection, but not enough people are opting in, so fuck their choice, people gotta get paid."

As for the reason California is seeming an increased rate of disease; when you have cities with a "poop map" there are bacteria and viruses that can find its way there and when the poop dries makes it airborne.

Add in rats infesting some cities, rats have fleas that can have plague, their feces can become airborne and cause a lot of issues.

Fix those types of issues and the need for vaccines drops considerably. They don't have vaccines for those medieval diseases because they know how people don't get those things anymore... Third world countries at least have that much taken care of, it's a regression of standards.
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Not just CA seeing an uptick in things like measles.

And I'm pretty sure you don't get measles from poop
 

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I don't see how they could enforce that with homeschooling

I get that a small percentage of kids, for medical reasons, should not have to be vaccinated.

But unless they have a serious medical issue - I just don't see how not getting vaccines is a good choice.

Especially if kids with a serious medical issue are exposed to say, the measles.
For homeschoolers, I can imagine the CPS kicking in their doors, on charges of child neglect as we head down this mandatory vaccination path.
 
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I'm a conservative Christian, but I stand with the liberal hippies on the forced vaccination issue.
This really isn’t a partisan issue. There are nuts on both sides that think vaccines are bad. And they usually the types you would think. Radical libertarians or granola crunchies. The facts speak for themselves. Vaccines good. Polio bad.
 
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This really isn’t a partisan issue. There are nuts on both sides that think vaccines are bad. And they usually the types you would think. Radical libertarians or granola crunchies. The facts speak for themselves. Vaccines good. Polio bad.
Each person has the right to refuse what any government might want to inject into their body.
 
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HayJenn

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For homeschoolers, I can imagine the CPS kicking in their doors, on charges of child neglect as we head down this mandatory vaccination path.
I don't see that? The bill says nothing about home schooling.

But I found this...interesting


Hundreds of dubious medical exemptions handed out by California’s infamous anti-vaccine pediatrician, Dr. Robert Sears, would be revoked under fresh amendments to a state bill designed to boost vaccination rates.

The bill’s author, state Senator (and MD) Richard Pan (D-Sacramento), came to an agreement on the amendments late last week with California Gov. Gavin Newsom.

The bill, SB 276, aims to crack down on bogus medical exemptions, which surged in the wake of the state’s 2015 law eliminating vaccine exemptions based on personal and religious beliefs. Dr. Pan was prompted to author the bill after discovering that some “unscrupulous” doctors had been exempting children from vaccine requirements based on questionable or outright sham medical reasons—sometimes for hefty fees. The exemptions left some communities under-protected from vaccine-preventable illnesses.

Revised CA vaccine bill would revoke exemptions from infamous anti-vax doc [Updated]

Kind of sounds like the school admission scandal.
 
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HayJenn

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This really isn’t a partisan issue. There are nuts on both sides that think vaccines are bad. And they usually the types you would think. Radical libertarians or granola crunchies. The facts speak for themselves. Vaccines good. Polio bad.
There are some legit reasons for not getting vaccinated btw.

Seems to me the entire anti-vax thing started with the Autism "thing"

Now THAT was wacky.
 
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Each person has the right to refuse what any government might want to inject into their body.
Actually no we do not. The greater public good outweighs the private right to refuse. Sorry but this is established law. If you have a contagious disease, the government has the right and the duty to quarantine you. End of story.
 
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Not just CA seeing an uptick in things like measles.

And I'm pretty sure you don't get measles from poop
Guess what the measles outbreaks correlates with most? If you said illegal immigration/ sanctuary cities.

The rates of measles started dropping as people got toilets instead of outhouses and started washing hands, by about 30 years before the vaccine was introduced. So, while you might not get measles directly from poop, the regression (in mainly progressive areas) creates the conditions where the transmission of disease has more vectors.
 
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A lot of these measles cases are coming from people in other countries, or from Americans that travel to other countries. Even the vaccinated people are getting it when they go to environments where measles and other diseases are more prevalent.
 
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