Canada pipeline protest chaos, blocking railroads

The Man

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Seems our police here in Ontario are scared of the native protesters:

Canadians would be forgiven for being a tad confused about the developments surrounding the rail line blockades that, now entering a full week, have seen the cancellation of VIA passenger trips as well as freight trains.

Here’s a headline from the CBC that was first posted on Saturday: “CN obtains injunction to end Tyendinaga Mohawk rail demonstration”.

That sounds like pretty heavy stuff, an injunction. Any reasonable person would think it means things were coming to an end for the protesters. As the story describes: “It forbids any continued interference with the rail line under the threat of arrest, and was served to demonstrators by CN police Saturday afternoon.”

Yet let’s fast forward to Tuesday morning, when the Ontario Provincial Police sheepishly issued the following statement: “The situation remains the same at the CN Rail line near Wyman’s Road in Tyendinaga Township. The OPP is monitoring the situation and members of the OPP Provincial Liaison Team are maintaining a dialogue with participants.”


Wow...

I will say this... It is amazing what a nice and relatively open society we have, where protesters can do this...

Can't even imagine someone trying shit like this in Russia, for example, with their heavily guarded national railroads, which are considered "areas of strategic importance" and approaching one of such areas without authorization can, frankly, get you fucking shot, over there...


And environmental and such protests over there have always been met with horrendous violence, both by police and privately hired security thugs from logging companies, etc:
Thank God it is much better here, these days...

Anyhow, the dispute about this pipeline goes back years, actually:
 
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Do a majority of Canadians support the pipeline? Did the people have any say in the decision to build it?

Because people tend to get pissy when their property is taken over by the state to provide wealth they aren't going to share in.
 
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Do a majority of Canadians support the pipeline? Did the people have any say in the decision to build it?

Because people tend to get pissy when their property is taken over by the state to provide wealth they aren't going to share in.
Many do. Many don't.

Really, though, this whole brouhaha is not even about the pipeline itself.

This group of native Hereditary Chiefs are attempting to assert what they see as their power to essentially veto any such projects they do not like going through their "unseeded" territory. In effect, they are trying to claim sovereignty against the Canadian government.

We will see how far that gets...

Similar issue emerging in Russia right now, with ethnic Circassians near Sochi:

Doubt we will see such protests over there though... Russia is not liberal, democratic Canada, and Putin ain't Trudeau. If some group tried to rise up against the government like this over there... it could get bloody, frankly...
 
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Many do. Many don't.

Really, though, this whole brouhaha is not even about the pipeline itself.

This group of native Hereditary Chiefs are attempting to assert what they see as their power to essentially veto any such projects they do not like going through their "unseeded" territory. In effect, they are trying to claim sovereignty against the Canadian government.

We will see how far that gets...

Similar issue emerging in Russia right now, with ethnic Circassians near Sochi:

Doubt we will see such protests over there though... Russia is not liberal, democratic Canada, and Putin ain't Trudeau. If some group tried to rise up against the government like this over there... it could get bloody, frankly...
Funny how people twine about walls but protest by creating a wall of people.
 
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Funny how people twine about walls but protest by creating a wall of people.
Blocking roads and rails DOES get one's message across rather loudly...

I think our protesters maybe been learning from Hong Kong lol
 
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Blocking roads and rails DOES get one's message across rather loudly...

I think our protesters maybe been learning from Hong Kong lol
Protesting is a French past time, Canada is quite French.
 
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